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Are you familiar with the second law of thermodynamics? |
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No, it's Cooyon flatulence, far more dangerous. -- "Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?" -- Nancy Hughes III |
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| I'm not suggesting anything. I am merely stating that the fuel is available and it being used. I do not know anyone using it. I do know however, that diesels modified for performance and racing sometimes use a supplemental alcohol injection system, so apparently the two fuels do work well together. I am pretty much diesel ignorant beyond that. Chris |
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There you go again, from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via |
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There you go again, from the biggest loser of them all! |
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On 2007-05-09, SnoMan <a... (AT) snoman (DOT) com> wrote: Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water. And it always will. Are you familiar with the second law of thermodynamics? IMHO, our best hope is to be able to separate them using a cheaper source of energy, such as sunlight, because then it doesn't matter whether we can recover all the energy that went into it. Ivan |
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What is the name of that old movie about the guys who put out the flame in an out of control oil well, using dynamite? I am thinking 40s-50s, but that is all that comes up. Earle "L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4641399e$0$16367$88260bb3 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com... The candles are in all the oil crackers I worked, and they regularly exploded. When it goes out, run for you life: http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/blur/8...1/b634115m.jpg God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/kenworth.jpg "Earle Horton" <earle (AT) angloburgues (DOT) usa> wrote in message news:46411705$0$31844$a82e2bb9 (AT) reader (DOT) athenanews.com Heh, I like the open flames one sees over oil wells to burn off "surplus" natural gas. Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On 9 May 2007 07:52:55 -0700, nrs <neale_rs (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Energy in itself is not a problem, we have solar, wind, nuclear, coal, etc. The serious problem is how to run vehicles. Petroleum fuels are the only viable way to do it right now, just think of a jet. Ethanol, hydrogen, nothing is efficient enough yet to compete with direct burning of fossil fuels. We also need to save some petroleum for lubrication of machinery. Another thing that is often overlooked is that food production is what it is thanks to the use of fertilizers made from petroleum, we are actually eating our oil supply. Hydrogen is very efficent but there is two problems with using it. First currently it is made from crude and cost about 10 to 12 bucks a gallon. Next is its storage. To be stored in a liquid state for greatest fuel density it has to be keep extremely cold. (about 423 degrees below zero) As far as energy density, gasoline has about 18,500 BTU's per pound and Hydrogen about 60,000 BTU's per pound (and a gallon weighs about .6 lbs). Pure ethanol has only about 8500 BTU's per pound. As a comparison, Propane has about 22,500 BTU's per pound and a #2 Deisel has about 21,500 BTU's per pound or just a bit less than Propane (this is lbs not gallons and a gallon of Propane weighs 4 lbs) |
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 13:27:20 -0400, FrankW <fworm (AT) norpak (DOT) ca> wrote: Funny that, from what I understand: Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe In the universe yes as stars and vast clouds of interstellar gas are made mostly of hydrogen but on the earth, free hydrogen in its native state is rare. Given the tempatures needed for it to because a liquid it is easy to see why. Hydrgen is a building block though is all fossil fuels but it is not in the form of free atoms. ----------------- |
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Yup, and anyone can separate it from water, remember the two electrical probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning, but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline, now. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/ "FrankW" <fworm (AT) norpak (DOT) ca> wrote in message news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d (AT) magma (DOT) ca... Funny that, from what I understand: Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe :-) |
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