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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-29-2005 , 09:22 PM






When I said she had a Detroit, Jennifer didn't didn't correct me,
at:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...ec 1a00d5bcdb
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
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Bill, Jen had an Ox locker on that trip, here's a pic from 2 days after the
roll...

http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Moab03/Jens_128.jpg

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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 09:17 AM






She was probably so confused by your tangents she didn't want to go down
that road.

OK, so we've established that she didn't have a front Detroit locker, but
rather it was an OX. And you've established *she* never told you her Detroit
released causing her to go over; you merely *assumed* she had detroit. Since
an OX locker is essentially a spool when locked, and it was locked according
to the video, what's your theory now why she rolled? Did she buy gas in
Mexico? Did she have over 15,000 miles on her spark plugs?


"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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When I said she had a Detroit, Jennifer didn't didn't correct me,
at:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...ec 1a00d5bcdb
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

Bill, Jen had an Ox locker on that trip, here's a pic from 2 days after
the
roll...

http://jbjeep.terahex.com/Moab03/Jens_128.jpg



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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 02:11 PM



My "assumption" as you want to call it, is based on my teenage
years driving dragsters, where a Detroit Locker could cause a full sized
stock factor experimental to lunch straight up into the air do a
pirouette and come down headed back to the pits. In slow-motion that's
was exactly what Jennifer's locker did, that's how we know it was a
Detroit, and not a OX vacuum lock, one wheel had to have released in
order for it to turn around to go back down the hill:
http://www.xws.com/jbjeep/jenroll-shortversion.mpg
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
Quote:
She was probably so confused by your tangents she didn't want to go down
that road.

OK, so we've established that she didn't have a front Detroit locker, but
rather it was an OX. And you've established *she* never told you her Detroit
released causing her to go over; you merely *assumed* she had detroit. Since
an OX locker is essentially a spool when locked, and it was locked according
to the video, what's your theory now why she rolled? Did she buy gas in
Mexico? Did she have over 15,000 miles on her spark plugs?

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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 03:55 PM



(a) Ox isn't vacuum lock, it's mechanically actuated via cable. (b) Let me
clarify, are you talking about the rear axle, or front? Because the orginal
post in the thread was regarding front axles, not rear, and you told him to
"use a spool."

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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My "assumption" as you want to call it, is based on my teenage
years driving dragsters, where a Detroit Locker could cause a full sized
stock factor experimental to lunch straight up into the air do a
pirouette and come down headed back to the pits. In slow-motion that's
was exactly what Jennifer's locker did, that's how we know it was a
Detroit, and not a OX vacuum lock, one wheel had to have released in
order for it to turn around to go back down the hill:
http://www.xws.com/jbjeep/jenroll-shortversion.mpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

She was probably so confused by your tangents she didn't want to go down
that road.

OK, so we've established that she didn't have a front Detroit locker, but
rather it was an OX. And you've established *she* never told you her
Detroit
released causing her to go over; you merely *assumed* she had detroit.
Since
an OX locker is essentially a spool when locked, and it was locked
according
to the video, what's your theory now why she rolled? Did she buy gas in
Mexico? Did she have over 15,000 miles on her spark plugs?



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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 07:41 PM



The only example I have of a locker releasing is of Jennifer's
rear, now do you think just because it's up front it will act
differently, while it's on the ground?
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
Quote:
(a) Ox isn't vacuum lock, it's mechanically actuated via cable. (b) Let me
clarify, are you talking about the rear axle, or front? Because the orginal
post in the thread was regarding front axles, not rear, and you told him to
"use a spool."

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Matt Macchiarolo
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 08:34 PM



The topic was regarding front lockers, you brought up a rear spool and the
symptoms of a detroit in the rear. Irrelevent to the OP, hence the
confusion.

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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The only example I have of a locker releasing is of Jennifer's
rear, now do you think just because it's up front it will act
differently, while it's on the ground?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

(a) Ox isn't vacuum lock, it's mechanically actuated via cable. (b) Let
me
clarify, are you talking about the rear axle, or front? Because the
orginal
post in the thread was regarding front axles, not rear, and you told him
to
"use a spool."



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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 10:18 PM



Matt, are you smart enough to follow this thread up to where Jeff,
elaborated on my front spool? Maybe, if you read Jeff's posted YOU would
understand, but I doubt it. And as usual YOU haven't written anything
helpful for Don Bowman's Spring Over Axle, where I have. Quit wasting
our time!
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
Quote:
The topic was regarding front lockers, you brought up a rear spool and the
symptoms of a detroit in the rear. Irrelevent to the OP, hence the
confusion.

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Matt Macchiarolo
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 10:27 PM



Mr. Irrelevent strikes again.

"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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Matt, are you smart enough to follow this thread up to where Jeff,
elaborated on my front spool? Maybe, if you read Jeff's posted YOU would
understand, but I doubt it. And as usual YOU haven't written anything
helpful for Don Bowman's Spring Over Axle, where I have. Quit wasting
our time!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:

The topic was regarding front lockers, you brought up a rear spool and
the
symptoms of a detroit in the rear. Irrelevent to the OP, hence the
confusion.



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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 04-30-2005 , 11:22 PM



And that was relevant?
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
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Mr. Irrelevent strikes again.

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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: auto lockers - 05-01-2005 , 10:58 AM



That ONLY happens on hard srufaces, it never happens on soft srufaces. And
when ascending a hill, the weight of the vehicle will be onthe rear wheels,
so this would have a minimal affect, if any, on the view from the top.

I do use a Detroit, but we are talking about a spool on the front axle and
(you threw in) hill climbs.

A locked axle never free wheels.




"L.W. ("ßill") Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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Jeff,
"Free wheel" is then the lockers cogs slide apart releasing the
outside wheel so it may speed up to cover more ground around the larger
radius while turning. You know the point where you may gas it, say
making a right turn and it instantly turns left into on coming traffic?
I thought you used a Detroit?
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Jeff Strickland wrote:

What free wheel?

What part of locked doesn't make sense? A locked axle does not ever free
wheel, unless the locker isn't working right and talking about the
feature
set of broken shit is a waste of everybody's time.


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