Your use of the word common confuses me, as it is the term we use
for the white wire in out homes which is grounded, just like the bare
copper wire is.
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JEEPR wrote:

JEEPR did pass the time by typing:
Did you read the schematic I posted a link to?

The relay is supplied 12V from the battery through a fuse
to the relay coil. The relay coil then gets it's ground
through the computer. That clicks the relay.

The 12V supply to the clutch runs across the high and
low pressure safety switches to the relay (switch side)
and then to the clutch.

Your basic relay:
http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/relay.jpg
Your basic relays schematic:
http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/relay-diagram.jpg

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take a look at Doug's schematic at
http://www.revbeergoggles.com/temp/relay-diagram.jpg
30 being the common terminal, 87a being normally closed and 87 being
normally open, that how we phrase it in the aviation industry


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"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

I did
Just trying to figure out how the solenoid energizes when the key is
removed.

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"DougW" <post.replies (AT) invalid (DOT) address> wrote

OK, but we use terms like ground or power to identify the wires
like in this basic KC relay wiring:
http://www.kchilites.com/instruction...layHarness.pdf Like nothing
says "common" in these diagrams: http://www.billhughes.com/ACWire.pdf
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JEEPR wrote:

JEEPR wrote:

You really should make sure one way or the other.

Do you already have a rotted ground strap from the rear of the engine
head to the firewall? If this ground is bad, you also will get a dead
battery. Seeing as you post from sympatico, you are in the rust belt
and that strap does rot out. There is another computer harness ground
on a bolt at the rear passenger side of the engine with a mess of small
wires on it.

If the computer is seeking a ground for it's 'holding' power, it could
maybe be stealing it through that relay which keeps the thing activated.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Sorry bill didn't have a diagram at the time and like I said I was use to
aviation terms
in the light diagram you mention it is only a two contact relay
the 85 terminal we cal X1 indicated vdc applied to the coil, terminal 85 we
would call that X2 indicated the grounded side of the coil, terminals 30
and 87 would be the contacts.

In the air conditioning schematic look at C100, a multicontact relay
B8 = X1, B10 = X2, B6 would be the common contact, B9 would be the normally
closed contact and B7 would be the normally open contact.
That's how we would describe it, just so when you refer to relays in
discussion it is a standard and leads to no confusion. just a little trivia
or info, funny the differences between the three industries,
household,automotive and aviation

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