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Anthony T
 
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Default Re: Off Topic Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions - 03-22-2007 , 10:50 PM






What the hell are you guys babbling about? I just want to know what's wrong
with my Jeep.

"Earle Horton" <apodo (AT) gracioso (DOT) usa> wrote

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Just don't forget to hook up all the pollution controls on that new old
Jeep!

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Really, all our gases are heavier than our atmosphere, it's physically
impossible for it to mix with it's Ozone, like the bleeding heart liberal
whacko greenie Bore would like us to believe! That's why we put the gas
hot
water heater on a two foot platform off the floor, to separate any
leaking
gas from the pilot light. Why doesn't someone ask that idiot why Mar's
polar
caps are melting, too???????! Remember why the Vikings gave Greenland
it's
name? And the ascendant maps showing land in Antarctica before we figured
that there was any under that ice. It's no where near as warm, just one
thousand years ago, and the didn't have industrial smoke stacks nor cars!
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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That's what I'm talking about. We don't need no smog check where I
live,
because we have clean mountain air. (I think the pollution runs down
hill,
most of it.) We don't need no EPA license to work on AC, as long as we
get
paid in beer and not money. And we don't need no arm patch, because we
don't have no inferiority complex to worry about.

Earle



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Default Re: Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions - 03-22-2007 , 10:50 PM






Good Idea SnoMan. I'll give it a try.

"SnoMan" <admin (AT) snoman (DOT) com> wrote

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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:38:49 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud (AT) remail-it (DOT) net
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Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.


I think I would do a long term pressure test of cooling sytem (a hour
or two) to see if there is a internal leak in it.
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Default Re: Off Topic Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions - 03-23-2007 , 12:51 AM



If you had read the subject line you, too would have known these posts
were off topic.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Anthony T" <bud (AT) remail-it (DOT) net> wrote

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What the hell are you guys babbling about? I just want to know what's
wrong
with my Jeep.


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Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions - 03-23-2007 , 07:38 AM



On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:50:53 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud (AT) remail-it (DOT) net>
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Good Idea SnoMan. I'll give it a try.

Do it with air not coolant because it can leak out easier. (though it
can take more time to see it hence the longer time period of the test)
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Default Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions. Now Dead 350 'from' a backfire... - 03-23-2007 , 09:10 AM



While you are there, a compression test is 'sure' in order too!

The 'Big' problem Anthony is that your reported symptoms 'don't' match
the diagnosis.

A backfire right out of the blue that stalls a 350 V8 engine is almost
always spark related.

In order for a 'slight' head leak to stall a 350, one cylinder would
likely have to be filled with coolant. When this happens, the piston
hits the water like a wall and explodes which usually throws the
connecting rod out through the side of the engine just for good measure....

Good luck!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Anthony T wrote:
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Good Idea SnoMan. I'll give it a try.

"SnoMan" <admin (AT) snoman (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:38:49 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud (AT) remail-it (DOT) net
wrote:

Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.


I think I would do a long term pressure test of cooling sytem (a hour
or two) to see if there is a internal leak in it.
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Default Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions. Now Dead 350 'from' a backfire... - 03-23-2007 , 10:18 AM



On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:10:28 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca>
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A backfire right out of the blue that stalls a 350 V8 engine is almost
always spark related.

I would not say that at all because usually it is fuel related if it
is through the intake (engine leaning out)
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Default Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions. Now Dead 350 'from' a backfire... - 03-23-2007 , 11:17 AM



SnoMan wrote:
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:10:28 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca
wrote:

A backfire right out of the blue that stalls a 350 V8 engine is almost
always spark related.


I would not say that at all because usually it is fuel related if it
is through the intake (engine leaning out)
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Then you normally talk a series of backfires or 'pops', not one bang and
stop that is 'caused' by a slight trace of hydrocarbons in the rad
coolant most likely from a cracked head!!!!

I would highly recommend as I have said that he check for loose wires at
the distributor or coil.

He just had some friends all over his firewall area trying to bolt in
his heater core. That top center bolt for the heater is really close to
things....

He also just had himself and/or friends all under his dash pulling the
heater core in and out with the dash in place....

I 'really really' would be looking at wiring, not a blown engine. If
you backfire bad enough to crack a head well... I don't see how it can
be the cracked head causing the backfire.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Default Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions. Now Dead 350 'from' a backfire... - 03-23-2007 , 05:00 PM



On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:17:33 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca>
wrote:

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Then you normally talk a series of backfires or 'pops', not one bang and
stop that is 'caused' by a slight trace of hydrocarbons in the rad
coolant most likely from a cracked head!!!!

Not always because depending on the reason for the lean out when the
engine missfired and back fires it looses power and required fuel flow
so demand for it decreases and it may run alright for a bit afterwards
when it recovers. Also something this backfire can occur when there is
a throttle change and enrichment lags enough to cause the "pop" from
lean out. This iis not to say it could not be ignition but more often
than not when it spits through intake it is from leanout under load or
engine acceleration.
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Default Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions. Now Dead 350 'from' a backfire... - 03-23-2007 , 05:40 PM



SnoMan wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:17:33 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca
wrote:

Then you normally talk a series of backfires or 'pops', not one bang and
stop that is 'caused' by a slight trace of hydrocarbons in the rad
coolant most likely from a cracked head!!!!


Not always because depending on the reason for the lean out when the
engine missfired and back fires it looses power and required fuel flow
so demand for it decreases and it may run alright for a bit afterwards
when it recovers. Also something this backfire can occur when there is
a throttle change and enrichment lags enough to cause the "pop" from
lean out. This iis not to say it could not be ignition but more often
than not when it spits through intake it is from leanout under load or
engine acceleration.
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"Caused by a slight trace of hydrocarbons in the coolant which means a
cracked head"????????????

We are talking a bang that stopped the engine cold at speed twice in a
row to the point of a tow...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Default Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions. Now Dead 350 'from' a backfire... - 03-23-2007 , 06:35 PM



Mike Romain wrote:
Quote:
SnoMan wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:17:33 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca
wrote:

Then you normally talk a series of backfires or 'pops', not one bang
and stop that is 'caused' by a slight trace of hydrocarbons in the
rad coolant most likely from a cracked head!!!!


Not always because depending on the reason for the lean out when the
engine missfired and back fires it looses power and required fuel flow
so demand for it decreases and it may run alright for a bit afterwards
when it recovers. Also something this backfire can occur when there is
a throttle change and enrichment lags enough to cause the "pop" from
lean out. This iis not to say it could not be ignition but more often
than not when it spits through intake it is from leanout under load or
engine acceleration.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

"Caused by a slight trace of hydrocarbons in the coolant which means a
cracked head"????????????

We are talking a bang that stopped the engine cold at speed twice in a
row to the point of a tow...
Can we say it sounds like the center coil wire came loose?

Quote:
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

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