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Mike Romain
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-23-2007 , 04:02 PM






Tracie wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 23, 11:35 am, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
Recalibrating the speedo is 1.) very easy, and 2.) not related to lift. It
is related to tires, and tires require lift. But lifting the Jeep in and of
itself will not result in recalibrating the speedo. Your tire selection will
though, so don't limit the lift on that basis.

As a practical matter, I think that 2 inches of suspension and 1 inch of
body lift will make a set of 32's fit rather nicely. You can do this much
lift with out moving everything else. I run a 32x11.50 on my CJ5, and that
is plenty of rubber for pretty much anybody. Yes, there are a few that are
more hardcore than I that are not happy with any less than 35" tires, but I
suggest you just stand back and watch these guys.

"Tracie" <brain... (AT) upstate (DOT) edu> wrote in message

news:1174656731.653381.110740 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...



Hello. I have a 2006 Wrangler X that I would like to lift. I am
totally clueless and I don't know whether or not I need a body lift,
suspension lift, or both. I do know I do not want more than 2 or 3
inches for a lift. Here is what I am looking to achieve:
I would like to put 31 inch tires (maybe 32's) on the jeep without
having to re-calibrate the speedometer. I also do not want to change
the T-case fixings or the steering components. And I do not want to
have to worry about tire rub. I am not sure if I would need new
shocks either to accommodate the lift.
I would like to also put wider tires on my ride to give her that
"beefy stance", but I am not sure how wide I can go without causing
any damage or problems (275/285 maybe) with tires rubbing on sharp
turns. Basically, what I want to do is get the lift and slap new
tires on my ride and just drive with no other modifications. Any
suggestions on how much lift, what size tires (I am thinking maybe 275
or 285/75/15), and what brand of lift I would need would be greatly
appreciated.- Hide quoted text -
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Thanks. I think I am liking the 3 inch total lift (2 inch suspension
and 1 inch body) quite well. I also think I will put the 32 X 11.50
tires on my ride as well. Just three more questions for everyone.
What would the difference be if I did a 3 inch suspension lift instead
of the 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift? Would 3 inches of
total lift and 32 X 11.50 tires compromise my ride quality much? And
last, would I need to get new shocks as well? THANK YOU everyone for
your responses. You've been a big help.

If you plan on off roading, 'any' suspension lift requires new shocks.
Even the 1.5" spacers!

If you do not put extended shocks on, the shocks will become the axle
stops. This is bad news and 'will' break things. I have seen frames
snapped in half and shocks snapped off. Another friend punched his
shocks through the back seat on a city speed bump.

Once you start talking more than 2" of spring lift, you are getting into
new springs and new suspension hardware.

If you stay with the 2 plus 1 lift, you costs still stay low.

Also just FYI, if you drive in snow, those 11.5's will not have good
traction. They are wide and will spin up really easily.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-24-2007 , 12:15 PM







"Tracie" <brainart (AT) upstate (DOT) edu> wrote

Quote:
On Mar 23, 3:38 pm, "Tracie" <brain... (AT) upstate (DOT) edu> wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:35 am, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:





Recalibrating the speedo is 1.) very easy, and 2.) not related to lift.
It
is related to tires, and tires require lift. But lifting the Jeep in
and of
itself will not result in recalibrating the speedo. Your tire selection
will
though, so don't limit the lift on that basis.

As a practical matter, I think that 2 inches of suspension and 1 inch
of
body lift will make a set of 32's fit rather nicely. You can do this
much
lift with out moving everything else. I run a 32x11.50 on my CJ5, and
that
is plenty of rubber for pretty much anybody. Yes, there are a few that
are
more hardcore than I that are not happy with any less than 35" tires,
but I
suggest you just stand back and watch these guys.

"Tracie" <brain... (AT) upstate (DOT) edu> wrote in message

news:1174656731.653381.110740 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Hello. I have a 2006 Wrangler X that I would like to lift. I am
totally clueless and I don't know whether or not I need a body lift,
suspension lift, or both. I do know I do not want more than 2 or 3
inches for a lift. Here is what I am looking to achieve:

I would like to put 31 inch tires (maybe 32's) on the jeep without
having to re-calibrate the speedometer. I also do not want to change
the T-case fixings or the steering components. And I do not want to
have to worry about tire rub. I am not sure if I would need new
shocks either to accommodate the lift.

I would like to also put wider tires on my ride to give her that
"beefy stance", but I am not sure how wide I can go without causing
any damage or problems (275/285 maybe) with tires rubbing on sharp
turns. Basically, what I want to do is get the lift and slap new
tires on my ride and just drive with no other modifications. Any
suggestions on how much lift, what size tires (I am thinking maybe
275
or 285/75/15), and what brand of lift I would need would be greatly
appreciated.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks. I think I am liking the 3 inch total lift (2 inch suspension
and 1 inch body) quite well. I also think I will put the 32 X 11.50
tires on my ride as well. Just three more questions for everyone.
What would the difference be if I did a 3 inch suspension lift instead
of the 2 inch suspension lift and 1 inch body lift? Would 3 inches of
total lift and 32 X 11.50 tires compromise my ride quality much? And
last, would I need to get new shocks as well? THANK YOU everyone for
your responses. You've been a big help.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oops. I forgot to ask this question. If I decide to buy the spacer
kits myself, is it best to go with a set made of polyurethane or
aluminum? THANKS YET AGAIN!

I like the polyurethane body pucks. I think you should use longer springs,
not spring spacers.







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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-24-2007 , 12:16 PM



Thank you Captain BesideThePoint for weighing in.




"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
And those hard core Jeepers go with leaf springs:
http://billhughes.com/TJleafSprings/
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:5tSMh.9$yo3.1 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) ..
Recalibrating the speedo is 1.) very easy, and 2.) not related to lift.
It
is related to tires, and tires require lift. But lifting the Jeep in and
of
itself will not result in recalibrating the speedo. Your tire selection
will
though, so don't limit the lift on that basis.

As a practical matter, I think that 2 inches of suspension and 1 inch of
body lift will make a set of 32's fit rather nicely. You can do this much
lift with out moving everything else. I run a 32x11.50 on my CJ5, and
that
is plenty of rubber for pretty much anybody. Yes, there are a few that
are
more hardcore than I that are not happy with any less than 35" tires, but
I
suggest you just stand back and watch these guys.



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-24-2007 , 05:31 PM



Anytime Jeff, just trying to enlighten you about the correct type of
lifts out there.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

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Thank you Captain BesideThePoint for weighing in.


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Matt Macchiarolo
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-24-2007 , 06:49 PM



"Those?" Bill, I think you meen "Two hard core jeepers go with leaf
springs...."

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Thank you Captain BesideThePoint for weighing in.




"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:460415b7$0$16291$88260bb3 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com...
And those hard core Jeepers go with leaf springs:
http://billhughes.com/TJleafSprings/
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:5tSMh.9$yo3.1 (AT) trnddc04 (DOT) ..
Recalibrating the speedo is 1.) very easy, and 2.) not related to lift.
It
is related to tires, and tires require lift. But lifting the Jeep in and
of
itself will not result in recalibrating the speedo. Your tire selection
will
though, so don't limit the lift on that basis.

As a practical matter, I think that 2 inches of suspension and 1 inch of
body lift will make a set of 32's fit rather nicely. You can do this
much
lift with out moving everything else. I run a 32x11.50 on my CJ5, and
that
is plenty of rubber for pretty much anybody. Yes, there are a few that
are
more hardcore than I that are not happy with any less than 35" tires,
but
I
suggest you just stand back and watch these guys.



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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-25-2007 , 01:24 AM




Quote:
And those hard core Jeepers go with leaf springs:
http://billhughes.com/TJleafSprings/

Imagine how much more flex he would've had if he had went with coils.



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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-25-2007 , 04:20 AM



Whatever, I watch and recorded the last ESPN rock crawling championships
and something with leaf springs won it. There seemed to be no way to edit it
to make that connection in a short mpg, so it deleted for now. When you want
strength and articulation you go with leaf springs, like your F350. If you
want a good road hugging car you go with rear wheel drive, coil independent
suspension front and rear, like my '89 T-Bird.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote

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"Those?" Bill, I think you meen "Two hard core jeepers go with leaf
springs...."


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Mike Romain
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-25-2007 , 10:49 AM



SBlackfoot wrote:
Quote:
And those hard core Jeepers go with leaf springs:
http://billhughes.com/TJleafSprings/


Imagine how much more flex he would've had if he had went with coils.



Screw flex, I want lift!

Ever notice how CJ's don't need that heavy rocker protection and extra
under carriage protection the new Jeep need?

There is a reason for this....

When a CJ lifts it wheel to go over a rock or series of them, it lifts
the whole side of the body and the undercarriage up out of the way.

When a TJ does this, it just lifts the wheel out of the way because it
has great 'flex' allowing the rockers and undercarriage to scrape along
the rocks... Hence the need for 'rock rails', etc...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



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Matt Macchiarolo
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-25-2007 , 12:34 PM



My no-longer-in-the-stable F250 articulated like a Bobcat. Same with the
Excursion.

"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Whatever, I watch and recorded the last ESPN rock crawling
championships
and something with leaf springs won it. There seemed to be no way to edit
it
to make that connection in a short mpg, so it deleted for now. When you
want
strength and articulation you go with leaf springs, like your F350. If you
want a good road hugging car you go with rear wheel drive, coil
independent
suspension front and rear, like my '89 T-Bird.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Those?" Bill, I think you meen "Two hard core jeepers go with leaf
springs...."



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Matt Macchiarolo
 
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Default Re: HOW MUCH LIFT FOR ME? - 03-25-2007 , 07:50 PM



While I'm at it I may as well install Rockwell axles and 47" Swampers for a
daily driver.

"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Get longer shocks and remove the stabilizer bar, like this leaf spring:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...730_3_full.jpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/


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My no-longer-in-the-stable F250 articulated like a Bobcat. Same with the
Excursion.



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