Okay, I've got the aftermarket foglights wired anf they would work if
I connected them up direct to the battery - but I'd like to be legal
and wire them to work on dipped beam. I'm told that there is a harness
socket for the OEM foglights and that it is somewhere on the left side
front wing/ fender.

I've searched but can't find any unused terminal blocks. Just in case
it is reversed for the RHD model I've checked on the right hand side
but still no joy.

Can anyone tell me where to find it - if it exists?

Also, where have people fed accessory cables throught he firewall? I'm
looking at the left hand side where the main harness comes through,
but something keeps blocking any feed I put through.

I don't want to drill any more holes, so any guidance would be
welcome.

Ewan Scott

That harness is good for 55w lights. What are you aftermarket fogs?

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Ewan Scott wrote:

You can wire the relay so that they only come on with the low beams. Use
the hot wire to the low beam light to power the relay.

"Ewan Scott" <ewanscott (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote

Whent hey installed the renegade lights on my Liberty, they drilled a hole
in the firewall.
Do you not have the instructions or are they some aftermarlet that isn't OEM
?

There were a lot of things about the install that made me just take it in
and have it done.
I was glad I did, that way if I had a meltdown, it was covered.

Kate
2O]]]]]]]O6 Rubi



"Ewan Scott" <ewanscott (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote

: Okay, I've got the aftermarket foglights wired anf they would work if
: I connected them up direct to the battery - but I'd like to be legal
: and wire them to work on dipped beam. I'm told that there is a harness
: socket for the OEM foglights and that it is somewhere on the left side
: front wing/ fender.
:
: I've searched but can't find any unused terminal blocks. Just in case
: it is reversed for the RHD model I've checked on the right hand side
: but still no joy.
:
: Can anyone tell me where to find it - if it exists?
:
: Also, where have people fed accessory cables throught he firewall? I'm
: looking at the left hand side where the main harness comes through,
: but something keeps blocking any feed I put through.
:
: I don't want to drill any more holes, so any guidance would be
: welcome.
:
: Ewan Scott

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:05:45 -0400, "billy ray"
<billy_ray (AT) SPAMfuse (DOT) net> wrote:

I've thought about that as a possibility but if there is an unused
Foglight terminal lying aorund it would be much better to use
that.since the Foglight switch on the column stalk operates the rear
fogs, I presume that it is also wired to run the front fogs - I just
need to find the pick up point - if it exists.

If all else fails I'll go for the dipped beam as the feed for the
relay.

Thanks

Ewan Scott

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:18:22 -0500, "Kate" <Kate (AT) dub (DOT) dub.dub.com
(please ask)> wrote:

Instructions? The company that I got the lights from realised that
no-one reads instructions till something goes wrong. So to save money
on the package they don't publish any fitting instructions :-)


cost about $175 plus carriage, and tax this end. So from the US they
cost me about $200.

If I buy the same lights here they cost about £180, go figure.

So, I buy cheaper aftermarket lights and mount them myself - I've had
them working off the battery, shipped from the US at £48, a quarter of
the price of a UK bought set.

As for having them fitted professionally, well, it's a Jeep and if I
went to the local Jeep Dealer to have them fitted I'd be looking at a
workshop rate of anything between £50 and £90 per hour.
I'm reluctant to drill a hole in the firewayy because - A/ I don't
know what's on the other side, and B/ Even if I wanted to I'd have to
remove too much gubbins from either side to get a drill in to do the
job.

If I go anywhere else, there is a very good chance that they won't
know any more than I do because there aren't THAT many Liberty's
about, a few, but not that many.

Ewan Scott

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:35:02 +0100, Ewan Scott
<ewanscott (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:


Ewan -

When I want something run through the firewall of my JGC, I take it to
an automotive audio installation shop. They do that all day for a
living, and know exactly where to run the wires. The last time I had
them run some wires, it cost me $30 U.S. You might check with some
installers in your area to see what they would charge. Sure saves a
lot of grief, and the results will look very professional.

Dick

My Liberty was still at the dealership when I was there a few days ago.
I am headed back to town maybe as soon as tomorrow - no promises.
I will make a point of looking to see where he drilled and shoot you a photo
if I can.

Oh, and being the goofy broad that I am, you typed 'fog lights', I read
'running lights'.
Fog lights are a WHOLE different can of worms than the light bar on top that
I was thinking of. Duh!

Anyway, I'll see what I can do to help you from that end. I may even get
some techincal advice from ray or Joey in the shop.

You ought to just call the guys down at the service department, and ask
them. You never know, they might just tell you how, or even print you out a
set of destructions

Kate




"Ewan Scott" <ewanscott (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote

: On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:18:22 -0500, "Kate" <Kate (AT) dub (DOT) dub.dub.com
: (please ask)> wrote:
:
: >Whent hey installed the renegade lights on my Liberty, they drilled a
hole
: >in the firewall.
: >Do you not have the instructions or are they some aftermarlet that isn't
OEM
: >?
:
: Instructions? The company that I got the lights from realised that
: no-one reads instructions till something goes wrong. So to save money
: on the package they don't publish any fitting instructions :-)
:
:
: >There were a lot of things about the install that made me just take it in
: >and have it done.
: >I was glad I did, that way if I had a meltdown, it was covered.
: >
: That's a fair point. I would have fitted Jeep OEM fogs but.... they
: cost about $175 plus carriage, and tax this end. So from the US they
: cost me about $200.
:
: If I buy the same lights here they cost about £180, go figure.
:
: So, I buy cheaper aftermarket lights and mount them myself - I've had
: them working off the battery, shipped from the US at £48, a quarter of
: the price of a UK bought set.
:
: As for having them fitted professionally, well, it's a Jeep and if I
: went to the local Jeep Dealer to have them fitted I'd be looking at a
: workshop rate of anything between £50 and £90 per hour.
: I'm reluctant to drill a hole in the firewayy because - A/ I don't
: know what's on the other side, and B/ Even if I wanted to I'd have to
: remove too much gubbins from either side to get a drill in to do the
: job.
:
: If I go anywhere else, there is a very good chance that they won't
: know any more than I do because there aren't THAT many Liberty's
: about, a few, but not that many.
:
: Ewan Scott
: >
: >
: >"Ewan Scott" <ewanscott (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote in message
: >news:fn1v32pp83dk5noj6927t24iq968k1dmma (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
: >: Okay, I've got the aftermarket foglights wired anf they would work if
: >: I connected them up direct to the battery - but I'd like to be legal
: >: and wire them to work on dipped beam. I'm told that there is a harness
: >: socket for the OEM foglights and that it is somewhere on the left side
: >: front wing/ fender.
: >:
: >: I've searched but can't find any unused terminal blocks. Just in case
: >: it is reversed for the RHD model I've checked on the right hand side
: >: but still no joy.
: >:
: >: Can anyone tell me where to find it - if it exists?
: >:
: >: Also, where have people fed accessory cables throught he firewall? I'm
: >: looking at the left hand side where the main harness comes through,
: >: but something keeps blocking any feed I put through.
: >:
: >: I don't want to drill any more holes, so any guidance would be
: >: welcome.
: >:
: >: Ewan Scott
: >

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 13:15:17 -0500, "Kate" <Kate (AT) dub (DOT) dub.dub.com
(please ask)> wrote:

After skinned knuckles and exhausting the angl saxon vocabulary I
managed to get the leads through alongside the main harness.

I've taken the relay feed off the dipped beam as Billy Ray suggested,
works a treat. But I'm still looking for the OEM socket if it exists.



ROTFLMHO - you have obviously never experienced the customer services
of main auto dealers in the UK. You would be very lucky to actually
see a technician never mind talk to one. Anyway, thanks for the offer
of help and the suggestions.

Having driven Land Rovers for more years than I care to remember - and
I mean the real things not Discos or Rangeys, I have been used to
wiring up things without relays, and if you needed to drill a hole you
just picked a spot and went for it :-) I'm being a whole lot more
careful with this Jeep but I am finding my way around it, bit by bit.

Ewan Scott

Ewan Scott did pass the time by typing:

The most important thing about drilling holes is making sure
there isn't some expensive fiddly bit on the other side. :]

--
DougW