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Default Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 04:20 PM






I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester E2SE and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema is that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other problems when
the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might adjust the carb wrong)
should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back and hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are there
any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens




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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 04:40 PM






That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and it
is supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5 seconds.
My book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
Quote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester E2SE and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema is that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other problems when
the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might adjust the carb wrong)
should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back and hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are there
any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens




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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 05:17 PM



Oh and if the power is off to the part, it will not hold any vacuum....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
Quote:
That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and it
is supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5 seconds. My
book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester E2SE
and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema
is that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other
problems when the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might
adjust the carb wrong) should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back and
hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are
there any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens




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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 05:29 PM



Hi Mike: How are thos Canadian snows this year?
I know what it does and the specs-I do RTFM. I've tested it and it holds no
vacuum energised or not, hence my question.

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
Oh and if the power is off to the part, it will not hold any vacuum....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and it is
supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5 seconds. My
book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester E2SE
and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema is
that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other problems
when the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might adjust the carb
wrong) should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back and
hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are
there any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens






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Mike Romain
 
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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 05:45 PM



We have basically no snow at all here in Southern Ontario. I was up
north a couple weeks ago and they had very little too. Barely enough to
run a sled on.

Too bad about the blown part. I think I would look for a used carb for
parts. Maybe someone upgraded and has the old one kicking around? There
are two Rochester E2SE carbs for sale on ebay for $75 each....

I doubt it would pass the smog, but how does it run like that?

Mike

MStevens003 wrote:
Quote:
Hi Mike: How are thos Canadian snows this year?
I know what it does and the specs-I do RTFM. I've tested it and it holds no
vacuum energised or not, hence my question.

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:45ce520a$0$2992$9a6e19ea (AT) unlimited (DOT) newshosting.com...
Oh and if the power is off to the part, it will not hold any vacuum....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and it is
supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5 seconds. My
book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester E2SE
and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema is
that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other problems
when the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might adjust the carb
wrong) should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back and
hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are
there any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens






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Mike Romain
 
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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 08:11 PM



One other thing came to mind, does it move when you put the power to it?

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
Quote:
We have basically no snow at all here in Southern Ontario. I was up
north a couple weeks ago and they had very little too. Barely enough to
run a sled on.

Too bad about the blown part. I think I would look for a used carb for
parts. Maybe someone upgraded and has the old one kicking around? There
are two Rochester E2SE carbs for sale on ebay for $75 each....

I doubt it would pass the smog, but how does it run like that?

Mike

MStevens003 wrote:
Hi Mike: How are thos Canadian snows this year?
I know what it does and the specs-I do RTFM. I've tested it and it
holds no vacuum energised or not, hence my question.

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:45ce520a$0$2992$9a6e19ea (AT) unlimited (DOT) newshosting.com...
Oh and if the power is off to the part, it will not hold any vacuum....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and
it is supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5
seconds. My book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester
E2SE and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My
delema is that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other
problems when the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might
adjust the carb wrong) should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back
and hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or
are there any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens






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MStevens003
 
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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 10:39 PM



See nothing move not hear any noise. But I got bigger problems. The needle
and seat in the kit is quite different from in my carb and I think I threw
the old needleaway! The only way I can now see to get it back together is to
retap the hole or re thread the seat. Things are real tight right now and I
was hoping to sell the CJ5 to see me throiugh a while. If I had the cash I'd
just buy a new carb. (Thinks???) Maybe I get my wife to sell her bug. AND
now as I proof this message I see my Outlook Express has a Foreign spell
checker. Just for fun after I send this post I'll send you the corrected by
Outlook!


"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
One other thing came to mind, does it move when you put the power to it?

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
We have basically no snow at all here in Southern Ontario. I was up
north a couple weeks ago and they had very little too. Barely enough to
run a sled on.

Too bad about the blown part. I think I would look for a used carb for
parts. Maybe someone upgraded and has the old one kicking around? There
are two Rochester E2SE carbs for sale on ebay for $75 each....

I doubt it would pass the smog, but how does it run like that?

Mike

MStevens003 wrote:
Hi Mike: How are thos Canadian snows this year?
I know what it does and the specs-I do RTFM. I've tested it and it holds
no vacuum energised or not, hence my question.

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:45ce520a$0$2992$9a6e19ea (AT) unlimited (DOT) newshosting.com...
Oh and if the power is off to the part, it will not hold any vacuum....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and it
is supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5 seconds.
My book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester
E2SE and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema
is that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other
problems when the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might
adjust the carb wrong) should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back
and hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are
there any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens








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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 10:42 PM



REPLIE as correcte by Outlook!

Sée notion move not Heard anya noise. But I goth biger problèmes. The
Nedelec and Seat in the kit Is quitte différent frome in mye carbi and I tin
I the ord needleaway! The onlay waw I Can no se to gent It back Noether Is
to retapa the houle or ré thread the Seat. Tins are real right no and I wasp
homing to sel the CCCJ to se me throiugh a white. If I hadj the cash Id Just
bu a new carbi. (Tins???) Maye I gent mye wifi to sel heur bug. AND no as I
proof This message I se mye Outlook Express has a Forgien sel check. Just
for fun acter I sen This post Ill send You the correcte by Outlook!

Mike

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
One other thing came to mind, does it move when you put the power to it?

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
We have basically no snow at all here in Southern Ontario. I was up
north a couple weeks ago and they had very little too. Barely enough to
run a sled on.

Too bad about the blown part. I think I would look for a used carb for
parts. Maybe someone upgraded and has the old one kicking around? There
are two Rochester E2SE carbs for sale on ebay for $75 each....

I doubt it would pass the smog, but how does it run like that?

Mike

MStevens003 wrote:
Hi Mike: How are thos Canadian snows this year?
I know what it does and the specs-I do RTFM. I've tested it and it holds
no vacuum energised or not, hence my question.

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:45ce520a$0$2992$9a6e19ea (AT) unlimited (DOT) newshosting.com...
Oh and if the power is off to the part, it will not hold any vacuum....

Mike

Mike Romain wrote:
That part is 'supposed' to leak vacuum. It is called leak down and it
is supposed to drop from 20 inches to 15 or five inches in 5 seconds.
My book doesn't say how fast to 0, but the top test.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

MStevens003 wrote:
I'm rebuilding the carb on the '81 exArmy CJ5. It's the Rochester
E2SE and
my vacuum test show the mixture control solenoid is caput. My delema
is that
I can not find this part under $85 and as there might be other
problems when the rebuild is finished (I'm no expert here I might
adjust the carb wrong) should I spend the
$350 for a new carb, buy the bit or just put the bad solenoid back
and hope
it runs OK and passes California smog?

If you recommend I buy the new carb shall I stay with the E2SE or are
there any cheaper or better alternatives?

Thanks,

Mike Stevens








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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 10:43 PM



Get the correct kit!
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"MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003 (AT) dc (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
See nothing move not hear any noise. But I got bigger problems. The needle
and seat in the kit is quite different from in my carb and I think I threw
the old needleaway! The only way I can now see to get it back together is
to
retap the hole or re thread the seat. Things are real tight right now and
I
was hoping to sell the CJ5 to see me throiugh a while. If I had the cash
I'd
just buy a new carb. (Thinks???) Maybe I get my wife to sell her bug. AND
now as I proof this message I see my Outlook Express has a Foreign spell
checker. Just for fun after I send this post I'll send you the corrected
by
Outlook!


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Default Re: Mixture Solenoid Delema- Rochester E2SE on '81 CJ5 - 02-10-2007 , 11:43 PM



From Tools, Options, Spelling Tab, and arrow in the country you live,
and Apply, OK: http://www.billhughes.com/temp/spelling.jpg
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"MStevens003" <MSTEVENS003 (AT) dc (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
REPLIE as correcte by Outlook!

Sée notion move not Heard anya noise. But I goth biger problèmes. The
Nedelec and Seat in the kit Is quitte différent frome in mye carbi and I
tin
I the ord needleaway! The onlay waw I Can no se to gent It back Noether Is
to retapa the houle or ré thread the Seat. Tins are real right no and I
wasp
homing to sel the CCCJ to se me throiugh a white. If I hadj the cash Id
Just
bu a new carbi. (Tins???) Maye I gent mye wifi to sel heur bug. AND no as
I
proof This message I se mye Outlook Express has a Forgien sel check. Just
for fun acter I sen This post Ill send You the correcte by Outlook!

Mike


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