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matt@skabrewing.com
 
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Default 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 08:55 PM






I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks


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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:01 PM






There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd be very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a problem for
you and others nearby.





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I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks



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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:11 PM



I have exactly the same concerns! I'll go check it out right now!
On May 6, 8:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd be very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a problem for
you and others nearby.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

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I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks- Hide quoted text -

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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:30 PM



On 6 May 2007 17:55:07 -0700, matt (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks

Sounds to me like the sector gear is worn out. It has its tightest
tolerance when it is centored and is the sloppiest at full turn and
sound sounds like it is worn to the point that it is skipping. I doubt
it is U joint because it would not cause alignement error and it would
feel sloppy straight ahead. Do not drive vehicle until you replace
steering box. It is 18 years old and they do wear out.
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matt@skabrewing.com
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:45 PM



So, I went to check it out and I found the linkage between the column
and the steering rod. On one side of the u-joint was a pinch bolt onto
the steering column and on the other side was a rubber joint of some
sort that looks like it could move back and forth. When I turn the
steering wheel this was where the slipping was happening. I couldn't
get it any closer together or farther apart and I can't tell how this
union works...Any suggestions?
On May 6, 8:11 pm, m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
I have exactly the same concerns! I'll go check it out right now!
On May 6, 8:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:



There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd be very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a problem for
you and others nearby.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178499307.076680.42280 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks- Hide quoted text -

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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:48 PM



The steering wheel alignment is adjusted via the drag link:
http://www.bc4x4.com/chrisw/projects...ap/frtdark.jpg that connects the
box to the tie rod. You may have a really, really loose pitman arm on the
box spline. DON'T drive it!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/TJalign.jpg


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I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks



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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:50 PM



I'm thinking that it's a pinch bolt on both sides.





<matt (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
So, I went to check it out and I found the linkage between the column
and the steering rod. On one side of the u-joint was a pinch bolt onto
the steering column and on the other side was a rubber joint of some
sort that looks like it could move back and forth. When I turn the
steering wheel this was where the slipping was happening. I couldn't
get it any closer together or farther apart and I can't tell how this
union works...Any suggestions?
On May 6, 8:11 pm, m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com wrote:
I have exactly the same concerns! I'll go check it out right now!
On May 6, 8:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:



There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd be
very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain
wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a problem
for
you and others nearby.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178499307.076680.42280 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks- Hide quoted text -

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- Show quoted text -




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mattyv
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 09:57 PM



It's not a pinch bolt on the wheel side(There is a pinch bolt on the
column side). It has an interior flexible rubber boot with a metal
exterior that connects to the u-joint. Because of the rubber
coupling, I can flex it back and forth a 1/2"+-. Thanks for any
suggestions. BTW, I put a 3" body lift on it. It looks as if that
might have caused the steering rod(?) to expand to accomodate the
lift...
On May 6, 8:50 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
I'm thinking that it's a pinch bolt on both sides.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178502354.501196.208560 (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com...



So, I went to check it out and I found the linkage between the column
and the steering rod. On one side of the u-joint was a pinch bolt onto
the steering column and on the other side was a rubber joint of some
sort that looks like it could move back and forth. When I turn the
steering wheel this was where the slipping was happening. I couldn't
get it any closer together or farther apart and I can't tell how this
union works...Any suggestions?
On May 6, 8:11 pm, m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com wrote:
I have exactly the same concerns! I'll go check it out right now!
On May 6, 8:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd be
very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain
wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a problem
for
you and others nearby.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178499307.076680.42280 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission. When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks- Hide quoted text -

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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 10:30 PM



A 3" body lift, DUH! You have stretched the steering column due to the lift.
There are straps and such under the dash board to secure the steering
column. Perhaps you can release these bolts to allow the steering column to
slide towards the steering box and close the gap in the joint.







"mattyv" <matt (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
It's not a pinch bolt on the wheel side(There is a pinch bolt on the
column side). It has an interior flexible rubber boot with a metal
exterior that connects to the u-joint. Because of the rubber
coupling, I can flex it back and forth a 1/2"+-. Thanks for any
suggestions. BTW, I put a 3" body lift on it. It looks as if that
might have caused the steering rod(?) to expand to accomodate the
lift...
On May 6, 8:50 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
I'm thinking that it's a pinch bolt on both sides.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178502354.501196.208560 (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com...



So, I went to check it out and I found the linkage between the column
and the steering rod. On one side of the u-joint was a pinch bolt onto
the steering column and on the other side was a rubber joint of some
sort that looks like it could move back and forth. When I turn the
steering wheel this was where the slipping was happening. I couldn't
get it any closer together or farther apart and I can't tell how this
union works...Any suggestions?
On May 6, 8:11 pm, m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com wrote:
I have exactly the same concerns! I'll go check it out right now!
On May 6, 8:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it
is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd
be
very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain
wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a
problem
for
you and others nearby.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178499307.076680.42280 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission.
When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering
wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks- Hide quoted
text -

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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: 89 Wrangler Steering Problem - 05-06-2007 , 10:31 PM



By the way, be sure to put those gold stars up next to my name.





"mattyv" <matt (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
It's not a pinch bolt on the wheel side(There is a pinch bolt on the
column side). It has an interior flexible rubber boot with a metal
exterior that connects to the u-joint. Because of the rubber
coupling, I can flex it back and forth a 1/2"+-. Thanks for any
suggestions. BTW, I put a 3" body lift on it. It looks as if that
might have caused the steering rod(?) to expand to accomodate the
lift...
On May 6, 8:50 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
I'm thinking that it's a pinch bolt on both sides.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178502354.501196.208560 (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com...



So, I went to check it out and I found the linkage between the column
and the steering rod. On one side of the u-joint was a pinch bolt onto
the steering column and on the other side was a rubber joint of some
sort that looks like it could move back and forth. When I turn the
steering wheel this was where the slipping was happening. I couldn't
get it any closer together or farther apart and I can't tell how this
union works...Any suggestions?
On May 6, 8:11 pm, m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com wrote:
I have exactly the same concerns! I'll go check it out right now!
On May 6, 8:01 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

There is a joint in the middle of the steering column. Check that it
is
tight.

If the steering wheel turns after the tires hit the turn stops, I'd
be
very
concerned that the steering wheel may turn while the tires remain
wherever
they are currently aimed. It seems to me that this may pose a
problem
for
you and others nearby.

m... (AT) skabrewing (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1178499307.076680.42280 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...

I have an 89 Wrangler with tilt wheel and manual transmission.
When I
turn the wheels all the way to the right or left, the steering
wheel
can continue to spin, causing misalignment of the steering wheel.
What is the problem and how do I fix it? Thanks- Hide quoted
text -

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