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Default OT: Diesels are the way to go - 04-15-2007 , 09:07 AM






Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their diesel
v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the manual
was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern diesel
technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it topped
out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder gas
engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-15-2007 , 10:21 AM






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And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

I'll bet Bill smelled it from his home.
"Eurovans" have been around for many years by many makers, along with cool
small utility vehicles like this
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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 05:58 PM



Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
Forest?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote

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Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
diesel
v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
manual
was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me convinced
that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern
diesel
technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it
topped
out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder
gas
engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

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mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net





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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 06:39 PM



No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:

http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg

"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Did you drive down to Munich and buy a Coo-Coo clock in their Dead
Forest?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

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Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
diesel
v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
manual
was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
convinced
that the North American auto market is missing out big time on modern
diesel
technology. Performance was excellent, it had great acceleration, it
topped
out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the autobahn!) and I got a combined
6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6 mpg while regularly running the
autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura,
though the engine did make a different sound, more like a four cylinder
gas
engine. And never once did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

--
---
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mlmacchiarolo at comcast dot net






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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 07:00 PM



1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually badge
the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around Europe. The
330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of the
configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as well.

2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that, I
took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series. They
kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.






"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote

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Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but not
sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 07:15 PM



Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:


http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 07:24 PM





"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure of
the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6 as
well.
I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder diesels.
There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo. Many cars
over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you have to request
the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number of cylinders
based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing under the hood
that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the plastic engine
cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it was.

Quote:
2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said that,
I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans Series.
They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.
This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing still
:-)

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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and the
manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has me
convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time on
modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about 34.6
mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was about as
quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a different
sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once did I catch a
whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 07:42 PM



We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.

"L.W. (Bill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Been there done that, I was stationed 150 miles west of you, between
Frankfurt and Luxembourg. So you haven't see the forest for the dead
trees?
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

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No, but we did go to Nuremburg and we stood here:


http://www.kubiss.de/kulturreferat/r...ribuene_2,.jpg



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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 07:48 PM



I stand corrected, BMW's 6-cyl diesels are straight 6-'s, I was confusing
them with the Mercedes V-6's.

After looking at the site a little closer, it very well could have been the
four-cylinder, in which case I would be doubly impressed. Nothing on the
registration indicated number of cylinders, according to my German friend...

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote

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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:Q6UUh.1434$xL6.325 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) ..
1.) Are you sure it was a V6? BMWs are usually inline 6s. BMWs usually
badge the trunk lid with the model, and there is a 330d rolling around
Europe. The 330i that is in our market is an I6, not a V6, I'm not sure
of the configuration of the diesel motors, but I thought they were an I6
as well.

I checked out the BMW-Germany website and apparently BMW 3-series cars in
Europe have two V-6 diesels available as well as two four-cylinder
diesels. There were no badges of any kind on the car except the BMW logo.
Many cars over there were like that, my friend I was visiting says you
have to request the badges when ordering. I'm even guessing at the number
of cylinders based on my fuel consumption and top speed, there was nothing
under the hood that told me how many cylinders it had short of taking the
plastic engine cover off. It did *sound* like a four, but I don't think it
was.


2.) Personally, I hold diesel motors in VERY low regard. Having said
that, I took note recently of the Audi TDI cars running in the Le Mans
Series. They kick ass. I need to re-think my position on them.

This is not your father's diesel :-) I was pleasantly surprised at the
performance and smoothness of this engine. Incidentally, almost every car
that passed me on the autobahn when I was going a decent clip (110mph) was
an Audi, and was usually black and passed me as though I was standing
still :-)


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xu6dnWc0Q_zIrL_bnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com...
Hi all,

Just got back from Europe yesterday, my first time to Germany visiting
friends, and we rented a BMW 3-series touring sedan with one of their
diesel v-6's with the six-speed auto. I'm guessing it was the 330, but
not sure...there were no tags on the car that indicated the model and
the manual was in German. Anyway, driving that car around for a week has
me convinced that the North American auto market is missing out big time
on modern diesel technology. Performance was excellent, it had great
acceleration, it topped out at about 140mph (228kph...I love the
autobahn!) and I got a combined 6.8L/100km which translates to about
34.6 mpg while regularly running the autobahn at 100-110mph. It was
about as quiet as my wife's Saturn Aura, though the engine did make a
different sound, more like a four cylinder gas engine. And never once
did I catch a whiff of diesel exhaust stink.

Just thought I'd share...

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Default Re: Diesels are the way to go - 04-16-2007 , 08:05 PM



Encouraging
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/


"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt (AT) nospamplease (DOT) com> wrote

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We stayed most of the time outside of Schwienfurt, about an hour from
Frankfurt. All the trees I saw were alive. Driving to Salzburg looked like
driving through East Tennessee, with all the conifers.


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