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Re: Wiring of Hella 500 Lights -
06-30-2003
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This harness is for the headlights. My Sahara came w/foglights from the factory and, therefore I also had the wiring already in place. I received several recommendations from several sources (including this NG) to use this type of harness as part of the conversion. I do , in fact use the Hellas & fog lights together, pretty much all of the time (I like the way it lights up the shoulder area). It is also said that the Hellas are brighter with the harness than with factory wiring. I installed the harness @ the same time as the headlights - so I can't give the voice of experience in that area. -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg14jsa7q8et11 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... That is a great solution when you haven't got driving (fog) lights already. He already has the wiring in place, so the question is if it can withstand the load, of if he should use the factory wiring to turn a relay on and off. I think the factory wiring can handle the Hellas, and it can certainly handle the low wattage bulbs rated at 55W. I think it should be able to handle the 100W bulbs also. Obviously, the factory wiring can not handle both the Hellas and the factory fog lamps at the same time. In this sort of installation, he will need to install a relay. "Carlo Jr." <carlojr (AT) attbi (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xB7La.40237$e26.23635 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net... AIR #509102 harness - has 2 relays directly off of the battery that hook to your stock headlight switch & the headlights. Took 10 minutes to hook up. I used the screws that hold down the front of the power control box to hold the relays (looks like they belong there). Lots cheaper than painless wire product - works rather well..... -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "WillysGuy" <willysguy (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20030625114917.10018.00000841 (AT) mb-m26 (DOT) aol.com... I've decided to replace the current driving lights on my 2000 Wrangler Sport with Hella 500 Driving Lights. 55W bulbs for now....100W bulbs later. Will I be able to use the stock wiring for the Hella 500 lights? Also, are the current lights already relayed? Thanks Pete |
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It sounds like your Hellas are headlamp replacements, I was thinking the original; poster had Hella offroad or fog lights that he wanted to install in place of the factory fogs. You can easily run Hella headlamp replacements and the factory fog lamps or even Hella fog lamps all at the same time because these are separate circuits. I don't know if the wiring harness will cause the lamps to burn brighter, but I would be surprised. "Carlo Jr." <a.serusa (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:f71Ma.67296$R73.9338 (AT) sccrnsc04 (DOT) .. This harness is for the headlights. My Sahara came w/foglights from the factory and, therefore I also had the wiring already in place. I received several recommendations from several sources (including this NG) to use this type of harness as part of the conversion. I do , in fact use the Hellas & fog lights together, pretty much all of the time (I like the way it lights up the shoulder area). It is also said that the Hellas are brighter with the harness than with factory wiring. I installed the harness @ the same time as the headlights - so I can't give the voice of experience in that area. -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg14jsa7q8et11 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... That is a great solution when you haven't got driving (fog) lights already. He already has the wiring in place, so the question is if it can withstand the load, of if he should use the factory wiring to turn a relay on and off. I think the factory wiring can handle the Hellas, and it can certainly handle the low wattage bulbs rated at 55W. I think it should be able to handle the 100W bulbs also. Obviously, the factory wiring can not handle both the Hellas and the factory fog lamps at the same time. In this sort of installation, he will need to install a relay. "Carlo Jr." <carlojr (AT) attbi (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xB7La.40237$e26.23635 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net... AIR #509102 harness - has 2 relays directly off of the battery that hook to your stock headlight switch & the headlights. Took 10 minutes to hook up. I used the screws that hold down the front of the power control box to hold the relays (looks like they belong there). Lots cheaper than painless wire product - works rather well..... -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "WillysGuy" <willysguy (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20030625114917.10018.00000841 (AT) mb-m26 (DOT) aol.com... I've decided to replace the current driving lights on my 2000 Wrangler Sport with Hella 500 Driving Lights. 55W bulbs for now....100W bulbs later. Will I be able to use the stock wiring for the Hella 500 lights? Also, are the current lights already relayed? Thanks Pete |
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I must be getting as bad as bill............I misread "driving". I am running the "Euro" Hella headlamp replacements - was told that factory wiring would work but that the Hellas were harder on the wiring & switch as per a link on this NG - if you like I'll try to find the link & post it again - not really all that important other than fyi -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg1auv69k6hh95 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... It sounds like your Hellas are headlamp replacements, I was thinking the original; poster had Hella offroad or fog lights that he wanted to install in place of the factory fogs. You can easily run Hella headlamp replacements and the factory fog lamps or even Hella fog lamps all at the same time because these are separate circuits. I don't know if the wiring harness will cause the lamps to burn brighter, but I would be surprised. "Carlo Jr." <a.serusa (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:f71Ma.67296$R73.9338 (AT) sccrnsc04 (DOT) .. This harness is for the headlights. My Sahara came w/foglights from the factory and, therefore I also had the wiring already in place. I received several recommendations from several sources (including this NG) to use this type of harness as part of the conversion. I do , in fact use the Hellas & fog lights together, pretty much all of the time (I like the way it lights up the shoulder area). It is also said that the Hellas are brighter with the harness than with factory wiring. I installed the harness @ the same time as the headlights - so I can't give the voice of experience in that area. -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg14jsa7q8et11 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... That is a great solution when you haven't got driving (fog) lights already. He already has the wiring in place, so the question is if it can withstand the load, of if he should use the factory wiring to turn a relay on and off. I think the factory wiring can handle the Hellas, and it can certainly handle the low wattage bulbs rated at 55W. I think it should be able to handle the 100W bulbs also. Obviously, the factory wiring can not handle both the Hellas and the factory fog lamps at the same time. In this sort of installation, he will need to install a relay. "Carlo Jr." <carlojr (AT) attbi (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xB7La.40237$e26.23635 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net... AIR #509102 harness - has 2 relays directly off of the battery that hook to your stock headlight switch & the headlights. Took 10 minutes to hook up. I used the screws that hold down the front of the power control box to hold the relays (looks like they belong there). Lots cheaper than painless wire product - works rather well..... -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "WillysGuy" <willysguy (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20030625114917.10018.00000841 (AT) mb-m26 (DOT) aol.com... I've decided to replace the current driving lights on my 2000 Wrangler Sport with Hella 500 Driving Lights. 55W bulbs for now....100W bulbs later. Will I be able to use the stock wiring for the Hella 500 lights? Also, are the current lights already relayed? Thanks Pete |
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If it is a headlight replacement with higher wattage lights, relay them with direct fused power. The stock switch won't take the higher power on any vintage of Jeep and most other vehicles too for that matter. I have seen way too many switches smoke out from strong lights, way too many. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "Carlo Jr." wrote: I must be getting as bad as bill............I misread "driving". I am running the "Euro" Hella headlamp replacements - was told that factory wiring would work but that the Hellas were harder on the wiring & switch as per a link on this NG - if you like I'll try to find the link & post it again - not really all that important other than fyi -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg1auv69k6hh95 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... It sounds like your Hellas are headlamp replacements, I was thinking the original; poster had Hella offroad or fog lights that he wanted to install in place of the factory fogs. You can easily run Hella headlamp replacements and the factory fog lamps or even Hella fog lamps all at the same time because these are separate circuits. I don't know if the wiring harness will cause the lamps to burn brighter, but I would be surprised. "Carlo Jr." <a.serusa (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:f71Ma.67296$R73.9338 (AT) sccrnsc04 (DOT) .. This harness is for the headlights. My Sahara came w/foglights from the factory and, therefore I also had the wiring already in place. I received several recommendations from several sources (including this NG) to use this type of harness as part of the conversion. I do , in fact use the Hellas & fog lights together, pretty much all of the time (I like the way it lights up the shoulder area). It is also said that the Hellas are brighter with the harness than with factory wiring. I installed the harness @ the same time as the headlights - so I can't give the voice of experience in that area. -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg14jsa7q8et11 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... That is a great solution when you haven't got driving (fog) lights already. He already has the wiring in place, so the question is if it can withstand the load, of if he should use the factory wiring to turn a relay on and off. I think the factory wiring can handle the Hellas, and it can certainly handle the low wattage bulbs rated at 55W. I think it should be able to handle the 100W bulbs also. Obviously, the factory wiring can not handle both the Hellas and the factory fog lamps at the same time. In this sort of installation, he will need to install a relay. "Carlo Jr." <carlojr (AT) attbi (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xB7La.40237$e26.23635 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net... AIR #509102 harness - has 2 relays directly off of the battery that hook to your stock headlight switch & the headlights. Took 10 minutes to hook up. I used the screws that hold down the front of the power control box to hold the relays (looks like they belong there). Lots cheaper than painless wire product - works rather well..... -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "WillysGuy" <willysguy (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20030625114917.10018.00000841 (AT) mb-m26 (DOT) aol.com... I've decided to replace the current driving lights on my 2000 Wrangler Sport with Hella 500 Driving Lights. 55W bulbs for now....100W bulbs later. Will I be able to use the stock wiring for the Hella 500 lights? Also, are the current lights already relayed? Thanks Pete |
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Yo Mike thanks for the clarification -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote in message news:3F00C726.C04D6A43 (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca... If it is a headlight replacement with higher wattage lights, relay them with direct fused power. The stock switch won't take the higher power on any vintage of Jeep and most other vehicles too for that matter. I have seen way too many switches smoke out from strong lights, way too many. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's "Carlo Jr." wrote: I must be getting as bad as bill............I misread "driving". I am running the "Euro" Hella headlamp replacements - was told that factory wiring would work but that the Hellas were harder on the wiring & switch as per a link on this NG - if you like I'll try to find the link & post it again - not really all that important other than fyi -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg1auv69k6hh95 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... It sounds like your Hellas are headlamp replacements, I was thinking the original; poster had Hella offroad or fog lights that he wanted to install in place of the factory fogs. You can easily run Hella headlamp replacements and the factory fog lamps or even Hella fog lamps all at the same time because these are separate circuits. I don't know if the wiring harness will cause the lamps to burn brighter, but I would be surprised. "Carlo Jr." <a.serusa (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:f71Ma.67296$R73.9338 (AT) sccrnsc04 (DOT) .. This harness is for the headlights. My Sahara came w/foglights from the factory and, therefore I also had the wiring already in place. I received several recommendations from several sources (including this NG) to use this type of harness as part of the conversion. I do , in fact use the Hellas & fog lights together, pretty much all of the time (I like the way it lights up the shoulder area). It is also said that the Hellas are brighter with the harness than with factory wiring. I installed the harness @ the same time as the headlights - so I can't give the voice of experience in that area. -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vg14jsa7q8et11 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... That is a great solution when you haven't got driving (fog) lights already. He already has the wiring in place, so the question is if it can withstand the load, of if he should use the factory wiring to turn a relay on and off. I think the factory wiring can handle the Hellas, and it can certainly handle the low wattage bulbs rated at 55W. I think it should be able to handle the 100W bulbs also. Obviously, the factory wiring can not handle both the Hellas and the factory fog lamps at the same time. In this sort of installation, he will need to install a relay. "Carlo Jr." <carlojr (AT) attbi (DOT) com> wrote in message news:xB7La.40237$e26.23635 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net... AIR #509102 harness - has 2 relays directly off of the battery that hook to your stock headlight switch & the headlights. Took 10 minutes to hook up. I used the screws that hold down the front of the power control box to hold the relays (looks like they belong there). Lots cheaper than painless wire product - works rather well..... -- Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh carlojr@attbi '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II O|||||||O '92 Explorer '65 Mustang "WillysGuy" <willysguy (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20030625114917.10018.00000841 (AT) mb-m26 (DOT) aol.com... I've decided to replace the current driving lights on my 2000 Wrangler Sport with Hella 500 Driving Lights. 55W bulbs for now....100W bulbs later. Will I be able to use the stock wiring for the Hella 500 lights? Also, are the current lights already relayed? Thanks Pete |
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