removing the rear track bar on a yj good idea or bad idea....What are
your thoughts ?

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:32:11 GMT, DeerSkull <stedee (AT) telus (DOT) net> wrote:

I think that you'll never notice it's gone.
We've got 2 YJ's, both daily driven, both with the rear track bars
gone. Never had a problem.
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Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
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DeerSkull wrote:
It depends on a lot of things....

When everything is brand new and the springs are as still stiff as a
Yuppie Jeeps springs get, then you might get away with the vehicle
tracking in a straight line down the road.

When bushings get worn and the springs go flat, then you can get a nice
'puppy walk' or 'crab walk' down the road when you give it gas.

It also can overcenter as the springs bend to the side around a corner
if you have a load on.

Basically it is a major safety feature on the vehicle, just like an
anti-sway bar. If you remove this and get into an accident where the
vehicle gets inspected (any injury accident), you can be royally screwed
because you intentionally disabled a major safety item.

That can turn an 'accident' with a death, into vehicular homicide. I
was told this by police and insurance and was told they 'do' check this,
especially on 4x4's.

Even companies that sell lifts, have trackbar relocation brackets....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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On my '87 YJ, when I broke my track bar mount on the axle, I found that
there was a LOT of side to side movement. Not too much of an issue on
roads but it would shove the tires over quite a bit when off camber in
the woods.

DeerSkull wrote:

"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) sympatico (DOT) ca> wrote

Is he talking about the rear "panhard rod"?
That's what I call it, anyway.
Spdloader

Spdloader wrote:
The track bar is the one that holds the axle from going side to side and
is a major player in preventing death wobble among the other things
mentioned.

The CJ7 with it's shorter shackles and really stiff leafs doesn't have
this leaning and tracking issue like the softer YJ has.

Mike

That's what I thought, we old timers call that a panhard rod. NOT good to
unhook it, at all.

Spdloader

RoyJ wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:40:57 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit (AT) nospam (DOT) triad.rr.com> wrote:

don't. Take a look at various pickups and even older passenger cars.
Leaf springs in the rear and no "track bar".
Both our Jeeps are approaching the 250k mile mark and neither one of
them have any handling problems. My '95 actually had the track bar on
it when I bought it. I took it off when it broke and started to
rattle against the bottom of the body. Never saw a difference in
handling and I was driving 135 miles a day back then.
Several months later I bought my wife's '94 and while crawling around
underneath noticed that her's was already gone. Couldn't tell by the
way it drove, then or now.
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Old Crow "Yol Bolsun!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow wrote:
sprung 'Yuppie Jeep', they decided it needed track bars to be safe on
the road.

This 'might' have something to do with the tendency of the short
wheelbase Jeep to roll over in sharp maneuvers so they want to keep the
weight centered over the axle rather than allowing the weight to shift
the vehicle sideways as you go into a corner.

Have you ever driven your YJ with it's full legal load on it? I drive
my CJ7 that way all the time when going camping and I really notice the
extra lean that happens.

I also have been in an accident where the person that hit me might up
and die and was told point blank if any of my 'safety' features like the
track bar or anti-sway bar were disconnected, instead of 'me' being hit
in an unfortunate accident, I would be charged as the 'at fault' driver
and maybe face homicide charges because I 'maybe' could have avoided him
had my Jeep been 100% up to spec. Thankfully I keep my Jeep 100% up to
spec and was found not at fault.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)