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Jo Baggs
 
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Default Starter Shims - 11-03-2009 , 07:33 AM






1977 CJ5 w/ 304. I replaced the ring gear from the previous post (Chewed up
Flywheel). I bought a new starter as the old starter gear looked a little
worn on the front of the gear. How do I know if the starter is aligned
correctly to prevent this from happening again? People talk about it being
"shimmed" correctly. How do I know which side to shim against the
bellhousing? Thanks

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Default Re: Starter Shims - 11-03-2009 , 08:49 AM






On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 06:33:47 -0600, "Jo Baggs" <Jo (AT) says (DOT) shaddup> wrote:

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1977 CJ5 w/ 304. I replaced the ring gear from the previous post (Chewed up
Flywheel). I bought a new starter as the old starter gear looked a little
worn on the front of the gear. How do I know if the starter is aligned
correctly to prevent this from happening again? People talk about it being
"shimmed" correctly.
Done properly you measure the clearance between the two gears.
Requires you manually engauge the starter clutch/solenoid (or whatever
moves the gears to mate). Then measure clearance. Different
starter/engine combinations take difference clearances, and sorry: I
don't know the 'right' clearance for this engine... <g> Some people
can listen and tell you if it is right based on teh noise. And many
people *think* they can tell you if it is right based on the noise.

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How do I know which side to shim against the
bellhousing? Thanks
Puzzled: could it be done 'wrong'?

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Default Re: Starter Shims - 11-03-2009 , 02:01 PM



Hi Joe,
http://www.billhughes.com/temp/82JeepCJStarter.pdf If it needs a shim,
the sound will be a little high pitched, like an old Hemi, or fighter
airplane. I've forgot hundreds, and only had to buy one wheel.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:BillHughes (AT) billhughes (DOT) com

"Jo Baggs" <Jo (AT) says (DOT) shaddup> wrote

Quote:
1977 CJ5 w/ 304. I replaced the ring gear from the previous post (Chewed
up
Flywheel). I bought a new starter as the old starter gear looked a little
worn on the front of the gear. How do I know if the starter is aligned
correctly to prevent this from happening again? People talk about it
being
"shimmed" correctly. How do I know which side to shim against the
bellhousing? Thanks


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Mike Romain
 
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Default Re: Starter Shims - 11-04-2009 , 07:30 AM



Ok, I was mistaken about the 304 it would seem, that starter does bolt
up to the block and can use shims, thanks for the info Bill.

Mike

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III wrote:
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Hi Joe,
http://www.billhughes.com/temp/82JeepCJStarter.pdf If it needs a shim,
the sound will be a little high pitched, like an old Hemi, or fighter
airplane. I've forgot hundreds, and only had to buy one wheel.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:BillHughes (AT) billhughes (DOT) com

"Jo Baggs" <Jo (AT) says (DOT) shaddup> wrote in message
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1977 CJ5 w/ 304. I replaced the ring gear from the previous post (Chewed
up
Flywheel). I bought a new starter as the old starter gear looked a little
worn on the front of the gear. How do I know if the starter is aligned
correctly to prevent this from happening again? People talk about it
being
"shimmed" correctly. How do I know which side to shim against the
bellhousing? Thanks




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Jo Baggs
 
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Default Re: Starter Shims - 11-06-2009 , 08:20 AM



"Mike Romain" <romainm (AT) nospam (DOT) live.com> wrote

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Ok, I was mistaken about the 304 it would seem, that starter does bolt up
to the block and can use shims, thanks for the info Bill.

Mike

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III wrote:
Hi Joe,
http://www.billhughes.com/temp/82JeepCJStarter.pdf If it needs a
shim,
the sound will be a little high pitched, like an old Hemi, or fighter
airplane. I've forgot hundreds, and only had to buy one wheel.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:BillHughes (AT) billhughes (DOT) com

"Jo Baggs" <Jo (AT) says (DOT) shaddup> wrote in message
news:LqVHm.8026$Mg.3123 (AT) newsfe01 (DOT) iad...
1977 CJ5 w/ 304. I replaced the ring gear from the previous post (Chewed
up
Flywheel). I bought a new starter as the old starter gear looked a
little
worn on the front of the gear. How do I know if the starter is aligned
correctly to prevent this from happening again? People talk about it
being
"shimmed" correctly. How do I know which side to shim against the
bellhousing? Thanks



Mike, you were right. The starter bolts into the bellhousing. It does not
bolt into the block. Not sure what kind of engine is on Bill's previous
diagram.

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