I use chassis grease, no where does it call for it, but I drive in
occasionally in salt water, at San Felpie, or in the Borrego Bad Lands,
for those that want to run them dry, then at least protect them with
factory hub caps. If you're replaced a tire that's been bolted to a
trailer or something that hasn't moved in twenty years, then you know
you're going to have to break a couple of studs, if they were dry.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

JD Adams wrote:

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:34:28 GMT, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Clay
<clay (AT) mation (DOT) com>:

Black iron oxide (ferric, IIRC) is semi-protective. Red iron
oxide (ferrous) isn't; it's porous and the corrosion will
just keep going.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Was that Bill Gates?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Earle Horton wrote:

If it is a rust inhibitor red iron oxide or zinc paint. I kind of
remember one of our elected officials telling us that, as one of our
water reservoirs leaked and dissolved before our eyes.
Rust is a good disinfectant, at least as an excuse to take my tax
payers moneys in government grants:
http://water.usgs.gov/wrri/05grants/...005AZ114G.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Clay wrote:

Bob Casanova wrote:
Well... I just had to google it. Lots of interesting info:

"Rust is really Fe2O3, a reddish form of iron oxide. Iron has another
oxide, Fe3O4, which is sometimes called black oxide, black rust, or
hammerscale."

Micaceous Iron Oxide
Synonyms: Micaceous hematite, Natural lamellar hematite, Specular iron
oxide, Micaceous iron oxide, Natural specular hematite ore
Designations:
Chemical Name: Micaceous iron oxide
Chemical Formula: Crystalline *Fe203*
Description:
1) A naturally occurring lamellar form of ferrous oxide for use
in manufacturing paint coatings.
2) When viewed under an optical microscope by transmitted
light, magnification X 200, the thin flake micaceous iron oxide
particles appear as sharply defined red translucent platelets.
3) *Without doubt, it is the most important barrier pigment
used in coatings to protect structural steelwork from corrosion. It has
a 100 year record of successful use on many types of steel structures
throughout the world.*
4) It forms overlapping plates like mail armor. It reflects
ultaviolet light, allows water vapor to escape from the substrate, and
is chemically resistant.

That's what makes me believe, that this "dry thread" nonsense, is insane.
Nowhere else have I seen torque tightening specifications, for "dry
threads". It is always "lightly lubricated" threads. By the way, "those
el-cheapo OEM lug nuts" that JD Adams is talking about, are probably
designed that way on purpose, to spare the wheel studs from the kind of
damage that those "heavily chromed, forged steel lugs" are going to be
dishing out.

This is almost as much fun, as last night's Town Council meeting.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" <billhughes (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Hi Earle,
My Oceanside, Vista, Escondido, City Council meetings used to be
televised by the cable company until they realized the looks like fools,
quibble over the small stuff. And it's how harder to see that it takes
about sixty thousand in grease to change a lot from residential, to
apartment zoning.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:LWHughes3rd (AT) aol (DOT) com http://www.billhughes.com/

Earle Horton wrote:

In that situation, I would use PB Blaster prior to loosening to save the
lugs. I can't see how grease, put on the threads after the nut went on,
could possibly be a problem on a lug that won't see unthreading for 20
yrs.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
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L.W.(ßill) Hughes III wrote:

How many people are at your town council meeting in Silverton?

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Earle Horton wrote:

Have you ever broken a lug installing or removing a nut? While I have
never, ever lubed lugs, grease just seems incredibly heavy. Have you
tried just a drop of plain machine oil?

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


JD Adams wrote: