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The ES trans "problem", that Lexus does not recognize as a problem, has been addressed by Lexus TSBs, and the latest (At least I believe it's the latest one) trans TSB has included a note specifying premium fuel should be used. At my last service visit the Service Advisor told me that, and I doubted it. He couldn't produce the TSB that day, and so I was virtually certain it was BS. I have, however, since seen the TSB, and it DOES state the requirement of premium fuel. It's stated in a note on the TSB. I've yet to try several successive tanks of premium to test it. I'm just so used to telling the guy to give me "regular" over the years, It never occurs to me to say "super". |
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I have a ES 330, 2005 year. It has the jerk and lag. After I bought the car (new), I brought it back to the dealer for the jerk problem and they told me to drive it for about 2000 or so miles and it should improve. Something did seem to improve a bit, but I'm not sure if the car adjusted to me, or I adjusted to the car. When I bought it, they told me it's OK to use regular, so that's what I've been using. However, on a trip to Florida last year, I tried two tankfuls of premium mostly highway driving. I noticed no difference, and the mileage didn't seem to get any better (but wasn't bad - about 27 to 29 mpg. On the highway, you don't get as much lag and jerk as in slower city or suburban driving, so I really don't know if that improved with premium. I will try premium then next few tankfuls and see, but I'm not too hopeful. I took the car back to the dealer serveral months ago and complain about the continuing jerk and lag condition. I asked that they install the software update that is supposed to improve this condition somewhat. They check the car and told me that it was installed before I even took delivery of the car. Frankly, it's not a terrible problem! If it was, I would have filed a Lemon Law claim. However, at the same time, I don't appreciate the way Lexus has handled it. They even told me that's the way the car is designed and it's supposed to run like that. "It's set exactly to factory specs." I was under the misconception that people paid extra for a Lexus mainly to avoid these kind of problems. It's sort of disappointing to realize that even with Lexus, you might not avoid those kind of problems. Frankly, my wife's 2004 4cyl. Camry runs smoother, without a jerk and lag, than my ES 330 (which is really a fancy and more expensive Camry). In any event, I still have the car, and I'll give the premium another try. I only have about 17,500 miles on it. I can afford to give it 3 tankfuls. Hope it works. Al "njbok" <NOSPAM (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:C1AB9385.33BF5E%NOSPAM (AT) nospam (DOT) com... The ES trans "problem", that Lexus does not recognize as a problem, has been addressed by Lexus TSBs, and the latest (At least I believe it's the latest one) trans TSB has included a note specifying premium fuel should be used. At my last service visit the Service Advisor told me that, and I doubted it. He couldn't produce the TSB that day, and so I was virtually certain it was BS. I have, however, since seen the TSB, and it DOES state the requirement of premium fuel. It's stated in a note on the TSB. I've yet to try several successive tanks of premium to test it. I'm just so used to telling the guy to give me "regular" over the years, It never occurs to me to say "super". |
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I also owned a 2004 RX330 (which has the same platform as ES330, Camry), I experimented with 87 Octane and 89 Octane. With 87, I noticed that the responses was awful. With 89, I noticed significant difference in driving, where the engine responses better with a slight tap on the pedal and the throttle responses was awesome. It did not noticed the same difference between 89 and 93, thus I am going to stick with 89. Did no check mpg though. V. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- Al wrote: I have a ES 330, 2005 year. It has the jerk and lag. After I bought the car (new), I brought it back to the dealer for the jerk problem and they told me to drive it for about 2000 or so miles and it should improve. Something did seem to improve a bit, but I'm not sure if the car adjusted to me, or I adjusted to the car. When I bought it, they told me it's OK to use regular, so that's what I've been using. However, on a trip to Florida last year, I tried two tankfuls of premium mostly highway driving. I noticed no difference, and the mileage didn't seem to get any better (but wasn't bad - about 27 to 29 mpg. On the highway, you don't get as much lag and jerk as in slower city or suburban driving, so I really don't know if that improved with premium. I will try premium then next few tankfuls and see, but I'm not too hopeful. I took the car back to the dealer serveral months ago and complain about the continuing jerk and lag condition. I asked that they install the software update that is supposed to improve this condition somewhat. They check the car and told me that it was installed before I even took delivery of the car. Frankly, it's not a terrible problem! If it was, I would have filed a Lemon Law claim. However, at the same time, I don't appreciate the way Lexus has handled it. They even told me that's the way the car is designed and it's supposed to run like that. "It's set exactly to factory specs." I was under the misconception that people paid extra for a Lexus mainly to avoid these kind of problems. It's sort of disappointing to realize that even with Lexus, you might not avoid those kind of problems. Frankly, my wife's 2004 4cyl. Camry runs smoother, without a jerk and lag, than my ES 330 (which is really a fancy and more expensive Camry). In any event, I still have the car, and I'll give the premium another try. I only have about 17,500 miles on it. I can afford to give it 3 tankfuls. Hope it works. Al "njbok" <NOSPAM (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:C1AB9385.33BF5E%NOSPAM (AT) nospam (DOT) com... The ES trans "problem", that Lexus does not recognize as a problem, has been addressed by Lexus TSBs, and the latest (At least I believe it's the latest one) trans TSB has included a note specifying premium fuel should be used. At my last service visit the Service Advisor told me that, and I doubted it. He couldn't produce the TSB that day, and so I was virtually certain it was BS. I have, however, since seen the TSB, and it DOES state the requirement of premium fuel. It's stated in a note on the TSB. I've yet to try several successive tanks of premium to test it. I'm just so used to telling the guy to give me "regular" over the years, It never occurs to me to say "super". |
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| Go ahead - spring for the good stuff that costs a little more. When the speeding dump truck is bearing down on you and you are trying to get out of the way with that wonderfull hesitating tranny, it helps to know YOU did your part! At least someone did if you burn the best! Remember the Lexus motto ENGINEERING FOR SHOW, NOT GO! |
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"mcbrue" <mcbrue (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1166485993.698053.125200 (AT) j72g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... Go ahead - spring for the good stuff that costs a little more. When the speeding dump truck is bearing down on you and you are trying to get out of the way with that wonderfull hesitating tranny, it helps to know YOU did your part! At least someone did if you burn the best! Remember the Lexus motto ENGINEERING FOR SHOW, NOT GO! With all due respect , I don't understand that . I never thought Lexus was that stylish a vehicle . I didn't think you bought a Lexus for good looks . -Dana |
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Dana Wrote: "mcbrue" <mcbrue (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1166485993.698053.125200 (AT) j72g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... Go ahead - spring for the good stuff that costs a little more. When the It is NOWADAYS, the new GS and IS and LS are some of the most elegant looking vehicles on the road. Lexus always built for QUALITY first and foremost, performance and looks always came second to that. -- NYLexSC |
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| Engineering is for show, not go. For example, the reverse looking radar to avoid collisions - only 4 sensors vs 6 on the front and a cheap little display hidden on the central dash with a nearly silent beeper. This is not well engineered for actual use. But it is there. So the engieering shows it is there, but not usefull. Hence the "for show, not go" designation. And I can quote a few more instances of that. |
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If you hate your Lexus so much, why don't you just get rid of it? "mcbrue" <mcbrue (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1166744116.445917.105210 (AT) 48g2000cwx (DOT) googlegroups.com... Engineering is for show, not go. For example, the reverse looking radar to avoid collisions - only 4 sensors vs 6 on the front and a cheap little display hidden on the central dash with a nearly silent beeper. This is not well engineered for actual use. But it is there. So the engieering shows it is there, but not usefull. Hence the "for show, not go" designation. And I can quote a few more instances of that. |
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