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Steve Larson
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-23-2006 , 08:39 AM






Agreed, that's an accurate representation of its behavior. Add to that,
when you do step on the gas after slowing down, the car often just doesn't
know what to do. I've had it jerk heavily into gear or hesitate and do
nothing. Frustrating.


"-" <- (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
On 20 Aug 2006 13:27:03 -0700, aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never
speed!

That's where the misconception is: the tranny lag does not manifest
itself by speeding! It's when the car is slowing down (say when
nearing a red light) and then you step on the gas (as when the light
unexpectedly turns green and before the car completely stops).



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Matthew
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 09-17-2006 , 08:12 PM






Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it. Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny issues to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with compliments ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

<aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -





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Steve Larson
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 09-19-2006 , 10:09 AM



And I'll bet you got the 05 at a bargain price too. They're not holding up
too well on the resale market, confirmed last time I did a kbb and edmunds
valuation of my 2002 ES300.


"Matthew" <thew60 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it.
Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny issues
to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find
that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with compliments
ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -







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thew60@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 09-19-2006 , 04:13 PM



"Bargain price???" Edmunds.com lists the 2005 CPO ES330 with options
for $32,000.00 The car retains a better resale than most other cars on
the market. And yes I happened to get mine for what I consider a good,
not "bargain" price
M

Steve Larson wrote:
Quote:
And I'll bet you got the 05 at a bargain price too. They're not holding up
too well on the resale market, confirmed last time I did a kbb and edmunds
valuation of my 2002 ES300.


"Matthew" <thew60 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OnmPg.100$Dr2.94 (AT) newsfe11 (DOT) lga...
Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it.
Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny issues
to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find
that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with compliments
ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -






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Steve Larson
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 09-20-2006 , 10:35 AM



I was disappointed the way the 2002 ES300 plummeted in resale value after 2
years of ownership.


<thew60 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"Bargain price???" Edmunds.com lists the 2005 CPO ES330 with options
for $32,000.00 The car retains a better resale than most other cars on
the market. And yes I happened to get mine for what I consider a good,
not "bargain" price
M

Steve Larson wrote:
And I'll bet you got the 05 at a bargain price too. They're not holding
up
too well on the resale market, confirmed last time I did a kbb and
edmunds
valuation of my 2002 ES300.


"Matthew" <thew60 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OnmPg.100$Dr2.94 (AT) newsfe11 (DOT) lga...
Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it.
Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny
issues
to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL
behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find
that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with
compliments
ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare
against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will
likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a
computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this
site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -








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Steve Larson
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 09-20-2006 , 10:37 AM



actually, the resale value I'm referring to is what you would get for the
car if you traded it or sold it, not what Lexus would get when they put a
CPO sticker on it and resell it at a premium.


<thew60 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
"Bargain price???" Edmunds.com lists the 2005 CPO ES330 with options
for $32,000.00 The car retains a better resale than most other cars on
the market. And yes I happened to get mine for what I consider a good,
not "bargain" price
M

Steve Larson wrote:
And I'll bet you got the 05 at a bargain price too. They're not holding
up
too well on the resale market, confirmed last time I did a kbb and
edmunds
valuation of my 2002 ES300.


"Matthew" <thew60 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OnmPg.100$Dr2.94 (AT) newsfe11 (DOT) lga...
Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it.
Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny
issues
to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL
behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find
that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with
compliments
ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare
against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will
likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a
computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this
site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -








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Al
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 10-20-2006 , 11:50 AM



Matthew, I too have an 05 ES330 which I bought new. Unlike you, I wouldn't
say I love it. I do have the tranny issue if you're speaking of the
hesitation and/or lurch. The service rep at the dealership told me to drive
it for several thousand miles and it should get better since the electronic
tranmission adjusts to the owner's driving style. Well, I did that and it
did get better, but, frankly, I don't know if if the car adjusted to me or I
adjusted to the car. It wasn't perfect, so I brought it back to the dealer
for the installation of the transmission software update. They checked the
car and told me it already had the update and there was nothing wrong with
the car. I told them it still jerks sometimes, but not as much. We then
went for a test drive, and, wouldn't you know it, it didn't jerk. Frankly,
the reason I bought a Lexus was so that I wouldn't have these kind of
problems. Also, after finding out what the dealer charges for maintenance
service, I am thinking of going elsewhere. I don't like paying $140 for an
oil change, rotation, and routine inspection. And at some points, like
15,000 miles and 30,000, they really sock it to you. I believe I may have
been better off buying a well eqipped, 6 cyl., Camry.
Al


"Matthew" <thew60 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it.
Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny issues
to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find
that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with compliments
ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -







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Steve Larson
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 10-25-2006 , 09:48 AM



exactly the line of thought I have gone through. Although I like the 2007
Camry a whole bunch better than in 2002 when I bought my ES.


"Al" <albertr (AT) joimail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Matthew, I too have an 05 ES330 which I bought new. Unlike you, I
wouldn't say I love it. I do have the tranny issue if you're speaking of
the hesitation and/or lurch. The service rep at the dealership told me to
drive it for several thousand miles and it should get better since the
electronic tranmission adjusts to the owner's driving style. Well, I did
that and it did get better, but, frankly, I don't know if if the car
adjusted to me or I adjusted to the car. It wasn't perfect, so I brought
it back to the dealer for the installation of the transmission software
update. They checked the car and told me it already had the update and
there was nothing wrong with the car. I told them it still jerks
sometimes, but not as much. We then went for a test drive, and, wouldn't
you know it, it didn't jerk. Frankly, the reason I bought a Lexus was so
that I wouldn't have these kind of problems. Also, after finding out what
the dealer charges for maintenance service, I am thinking of going
elsewhere. I don't like paying $140 for an oil change, rotation, and
routine inspection. And at some points, like 15,000 miles and 30,000,
they really sock it to you. I believe I may have been better off buying a
well eqipped, 6 cyl., Camry.
Al


"Matthew" <thew60 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:OnmPg.100$Dr2.94 (AT) newsfe11 (DOT) lga...
Kudos to aniramca! I just bought a beautiful CPO 05 ES330 and love it.
Have
driven the hsck out of it trying to reproduce the so called tranny issues
to
no avail. The car is a "throttle by wire" acceleration so it WILL behave
slight differently than a standatd throttle acceleration.
Prior to purchasing this car i looked at the newsgroups. Lexus has sold
hundreds of thousands of ES300's, 330's and with a few hundred people
complaining about tranny issues I went for my new Lexus and love it.
I have found a wealth of information on many newsgroups however, I find
that
people with gripes post much more frequently than those with compliments
ar
rave reviews. Just IMHO of course...
Matt

aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a
computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this
site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -









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howard.aubrey@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 10-25-2006 , 04:35 PM




Steve Larson wrote:
Quote:
exactly the line of thought I have gone through. When me and best friend Russell went out looking for young boys, we found the whole car to be an embarassing difficulty.
I had to call my good friend Rock Strong in to help, lest I find
myself without some tender young 'twink meat' to spend the night with.
I'm diseased as many of you now know (sorry).

But I'm still after a good time! No tranny will stop me from spreading
my hepatitis! I didn't want it in the first place so I'm going to
freely spread it to others the same way my wife gave it to me!


Now for a few gluten free snacks, my stomach is *killing* me!

Love and Kisses..

Stevie, Rocko, RS, Russell, et al...



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