On Apr 28, 9:37 pm, "Kikune Mikutamo" <mun... (AT) doesntexist (DOT) org> wrote:
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While I generally agree with this assessment lets not forget that for
the VAST majority of drivers the speed difference between a Lexus and
BMW (with similar HP to weight ratio) being hustled down a public road
won't amount to anything significant. And if you live where winter
ravages the roads, a softer sprung car is sometimes faster.

The RWD Infiniti cars prove BMW and MB don't have a lock on "drivers
car" territory. To be fair, any owner of a RWD sports car (lots of
Miata owners out there) already knows this better than any sedan
driver. I'll go out on a limb and predict that once GM's new RWD
sporty cars hit the market and more folks get exposed to RWD dynamics
that BMW/MB mystique is gonna fade.

On 2 May 2007 05:04:53 -0700, ACAR <dimndsonmywndshld (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:

And Lexus doesn't make RWD cars.... except, of course, the IS, the GS
and the LS.

You guys and gals forget that a kar, no matter what brand it may be, a
car will not perform unless the driver knows how to drive...my AWD
Lexus corneres better than any German or US rear or front wheel drive
I have ever owned or rented....

Sure every brand of car has its inherent roadworthiness, and sure you
can't put a car through its paces any more without getting a ticket
from John Law, so we are left with really two choices, styling appeal/
comfort and, no hidden surprises, ergo reliability.......

in the first case, it is very judgemental, the Audi grille is about
as ugly as they come with their pseudo Olympic logo etched in Kapital
Letters, and the Japanese designs are not very innovative either
(witness the Nissan taillights), but in the case for not leaving you
stranded or with a hefty repair bill, the Japanese outshine all
others, US, European and other Asian brands combined, except perhaps
for the Koreans, but there I am still on the learning curve.......

"DaveW" <yzfr1ny (AT) yahooooo (DOT) com> wrote

Don't forget the SC!

On Thu, 3 May 2007 11:18:57 -0500, "David" <drnall (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

Oops, and to think I've owned two of them (first generation).

"kitzler" <njanus (AT) optonline (DOT) net> wrote:
So, you owned a VW Beetle and rented a Ford Tempo?

I have the same thought too. McBrue comments to me is always 'blah-
blah-blah", doesn't make sense at all.

It seems like he spent $70K on a car just to bitch about it.

Don't you know how to 'test drive' before purchasing car ?

V.

On Apr 28, 6:25 am, DaveW <yzfr... (AT) yahoooo (DOT) com> wrote:

On 6 May 2007 07:41:55 -0700, e2vincent (AT) gmail (DOT) com graced this
newsgroup with:


you're making the dangerous assumption that he even owns one.

On Apr 3, 8:57 am, "mcbrue" <mcb... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
Many of these reliability problems you cite may just be individual
variation. You can have a look at the reliability surveys, which take
into account many people's experiences with cars, and this gives
better results because it doesn't overstate the experience of a few
people.

With regards to the noise, the Lexus LS460's interior has sound rating
of about 20 decibels. On an average car it's about 40 decibels. Which
Mercedes were you referring to when you said the Mercedes is quiete?.
You need to specify the model, not just the brand because different
models are different even if they share the same brand.

On Apr 29, 11:37 am, "Kikune Mikutamo" <mun... (AT) doesntexist (DOT) org> wrote:
Not yet, but I hear performance Lexuses are coming in the future in
the F series. But your observation seems accurate. Many people do like
being isolated from the road. I myself would like to get from A to B
in as much comfort as possible.