Does anyone know the latest version of Lexus GPS DVD? My 2006 has
version .05.1, and its woefully deficient in all aspects of navigation
compared to my Honda Accord's GPS for 2006. The Lexus NAV showed three
restaurants on Hatteras, NC. There have to be twenty or more at least
on Hatteras!

Corky wrote:
The only thing woefully deficient is your level of knowledge of how to
properly work the nav system in your Lexus. Did you know Navteq
supplies the map data for both Lexus and Honda/Acura? I guess 5.6M
points of interest isn't enough; there needs to be 5.6M....and twenty.

Right on Greg! I have thrown your response on the dung heap where it
belongs with the rest of your rantings!!
You should stick a pin in yourself and let out some of that pus in
your brain!!
On 7 Oct 2006 20:10:31 -0700, "greg" <grezuki (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

Corky <corky (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in news:0kbgi29cobqkqmshvpje89qkp4atcjeg3p@
4ax.com:

The Lexus (Toyota) system has very few points of interest. My Garmin has
most of the places in Las Vegas, The Lexus (updated last year) has only the
major casinos and hotels and a couple more big places. I hope they will
improve it for the next update.

Corky wrote:
I bring you Corky's other posts in this group:

Greg's posted rant: It sounds as if you turned off "allow freeways" in
your route preference. Make sure there is no "slash" across the
interstate freeway symbol that shows up on your map screen after you've
input the destination and the screen is displaying the route overview.

Greg's posted rant: Odd, as the town of Lompoc, CA is definitely in the
database, as are the Toyota dealerships in town. Try inputting by POI
Category, City Center, and Automotive category.

Addendum to above rant by Greg: It also sounds like you didn't change
the search area to US2: CA, NV

Greg's posted rant: Again, if you input by POI Category, the next
screen asks if you want to use City Center, Current Position, or Map.

Corky's rant part II:

Corky's rant part III:

Greg's new rant: a wasted free XM radio on the ungrateful and unwilling
to learn. And I'll take some
of the cotton from between your ears to sop up the pus oozing out of my
brain. (Sorry, couldn't resist).

I put it up to the group: Was I ranting or just wasting my breath
posting explanations for each of Corky's "problems"?

"greg" <grezuki (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote


My recollection is that the DEFAULT on the Lexus nav is to ASSUME that
highways are not allowed.

If my recollection is correct, THAT'S A PRETTY STUPID default choice by
the programmers, isn't it?

Compound that stupidity with the poorly organized menu system and you
have a lot of frustration for first time users of this system.

I'm pretty computer literate and I found the Lexus nav system difficult
to "navigate" at first until I got to know it. Even now after 2+ years
of using it, sometimes I still have to go back and forth through the
menu system a couple times to accomplish what I want because the menu
system is not very intuitive. This is particularly irritating when I
have to get someplace on a certain schedule.

Don't get me wrong. I think the Lexus nav is great when it works, but
it could be a lot better if some simple and obvious changes were made to
the menu system

Why should you have to go to POI Category to enter a City as a
destination? What does one thing have to do with the other? Further,
how does going to POI Catergory allow you to set the nav system to guide
you to the selected city?

The logic of the menu system is dumb and not intuitive.

This one seems like a repeat of the same old rant that's been repeatedly
explained to Corky, but he doesn't or refuses to get it. Corky, are you
learning disabled, lazy, or just stubborn?

Another thing I find irritating about the Lexus nav is that if I don't
know if a certain street is a "rd" or "ave" or whatever, it won't let
you narrow the choices by going to the city name without backing out and
reentering the street name. Do other nav systems have this problem, or
is this just another aspect of the Lexus nav's poor menu design?

David Z wrote:
I agree it would be pretty stupid if that were the case, but the
default is set to actually allow freeways/toll roads/ferrys/seasonally
restricted roads. I suspect Corky accidentally turned it off.

Sometimes I forget as well how to get to a certain menu. Lexus actually
listens to customer suggestions and many times will incorporate them
into future products. If you've got some, call the 800# and it will be
reviewed, not just circular filed.

Corky said you can't input guidance to only a City; you must have an
address. Using POI category WILL allow you to set a city as a
destination WITHOUT using an address.

If you press the destination button, then address, there's a "city
name" button on the address screen. Enter the city name first then
press "street"; that will narrow down the choices with no backing out
required.

"greg" <grezuki (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

I think my recollection is correct because:

(a) I remember having this problem when I first got the car,
(b) I remember having this problem when my nav was reset to the default,
and
(c) FINDING the switch that turns off this default was a pain in the ass
because the menu system is so poorly laid out.

What do POIs have to do with setting a city as a destination without
using an address?

You have just illustrated how incredibly dumb the menu layout is!

True. But I often enter the address first and the nav gives me a choice
of cities. That's the easier way to do it if the list of cities is
small. Unfortunately, if the street name is a common one, I get too
many cities to wade through. At that point, the nav system should let
me narrow the cities by entering a name with out typing in the address
again, but it doesn't. What a pain in the ass. There's no way to know
how many cities will pop up until you input the street address and then
it's too late to avoid entering the street address twice.

Unfortunately, if the street name is a common one, I get too
I often enter the city name first.

To clarify, the setting is not accessed by pressing the Menu button
then default. The icons for highway, ferry, etc will however, come up
in a little box on the upper right side of the route overview screen
every time you enter a destination.

I concede that BMW/Mercedes/Honda-Acura/Garmin/Magellan/
keepaddingnamesforallthenavsystemsoutthere probably each have
functionality that is "better" than Lexus. I put emphasis on "better"
because it's a matter of opinion, which everyone is entitled to. What
gets me is folks who complain about something when clearly, they're not
using it properly. It's like saying my Lexus is a piece of junk because
my Verizon bluetooth phone won't download my phonebook into the car (It
won't download to a PC either because Verizon wants you to pay for a
service which gives you the privelige of transferring your contacts).

The POI being "city center" is the fastest way to receive guidance to a
City. The POI could just as easily be a restaurant, post office,
whatever. The point is, you don't need an address to receive guidance
to a city, just choose a POI, any POI, and you'll get there. Choosing a
POI is faster than typing in an address anyway. But, wait, I'm sure
there's a nav system out there that just allows you to input only a
city name and get a guidance, so that makes it better than Lexus! Yay!
Lexus-haters rejoice!

Okay, so if the name of the street is "Main" then you'd be better off
entering the city first. If it's
"manthiswholethingisabouttalkedtodeath", then it would be safe to go
with address first.

Recognizing that no system is perfect for everyone out there, I prefer
to learn how to best operate the system knowing the limitations/quirks
rather than just trash it because it doesn't work how a
Garmin/Magellan/tomtom works. So, to everyone out there: yes, the Lexus
nav system is not perfect, and I apologize for trying to give people
pointers on how to get the desired results!

Oh and BTW, Hatteras, NC is an island with a population of 3,107 and
nine restaurants (according to Google), all clustered on a one mile
stretch of HWY 12. If some people need guidance for that, well...