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Mark Klebanoff
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 05-30-2006 , 05:13 AM






On Tue, 30 May 2006 02:27:55 UTC, RT <noyabusiness (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

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I just don't get that. Why not offer a sport-package with a 6 speed
manual on the IS350 ? I think they are missing out on many potential
buyers. I testdrove the is250 because I want a manual and I thought it
was a dog and way too mushy. I do like the looks a lot better than the
is300.
I don't get it either. It just looks to me like Toyota is just not
interested in building a truly sporty car. It's a shame-- my IS300
was the only Lexus I'd even think twice about purchasing at any price.
The rest of the line is just a bunch of old men's cars. I thought
they were going in a good direction with the original IS, but i guess
that's not where they want to go.


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Dan J.S.
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 05-30-2006 , 11:58 AM







"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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I really love my Camry, but occasionally I get buyer's remorse and
think I shoulda dropped an extra 10k for the intro Lexus IS 250 or
ES 330. Would anyone know if these '06 Lexus models were selling at
invoice (or perhaps under invoice) like the '06 Camry was last year?

I bought the Camry for about $1,200 under invoice. Do you think the
same would have been possible for the '06 intro Lexus models?

Also, would you happen to know if the size of the interior space is
about equal between the '06 Camry and the IS 250? I mean the intro
Lexus isn't a small-size sedan like the intro BMW 3 Series model is
it? (Looks like the IS 250 is three-quarters of a foot shorter in
length than the '06 Camry LE.)

The ES330 (2004) model was the worst piece of crap I have ever owned. It had
the fly-by-wire system, it's acceleration lag was as long as 2 seconds(lots
of complaints on nhtsa.gov). I understand the new ES has these issues
resolved.




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Built_Well
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 05-30-2006 , 04:03 PM



Thanks for everyone's advice. I feel much better now about buying the
'06 Camry rather than splurging on a Lexis ES330.

Hmm, maybe I can buy a fake "L" badge at AutoZone and put that on my
Camry's front hood... You know like the fake Car Alarm blinking light
that
you can put on your dash. You used to be able to buy those at
AutoZone. Next time, I'll look for the "L."

Say doesn't Lincoln's emblem just look like an upside-down "L?"


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dizzy
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 05-30-2006 , 07:58 PM



Mack wrote:

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You're very smart to have bought the Camry instead of the ES. Better
transmission at a lower price for an almost identical car. Only thing you
might miss is the coffee in the Lexus service center and loaner car (if they
have one), but you would pay much more for the Lexus service. I speak as an
embarrassed ES owner.
You do get a much nicer interior in the Lexus... Depends what you
like.



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Kdod
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 05-31-2006 , 06:36 PM




"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Thanks for everyone's advice. I feel much better now about buying the
'06 Camry rather than splurging on a Lexis ES330.

Hmm, maybe I can buy a fake "L" badge at AutoZone and put that on my
Camry's front hood... You know like the fake Car Alarm blinking light
that
you can put on your dash. You used to be able to buy those at
AutoZone. Next time, I'll look for the "L."

Say doesn't Lincoln's emblem just look like an upside-down "L?"

That reminds me.........if you turn Iowa Hawkeye(university of iowa) logo
upside down
it looks like Freddy Flintstone!




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rithkem@aol.com
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 06-03-2006 , 10:18 PM



I went to the dealership in Fairfax and was quoted 1500 below the
invoice
on the ES350, its a nice Ride but I'd rather have the piece of mind
buying the Camry.
its too bad the Camry has a funny Nose.


Built_Well wrote:
Quote:
I really love my Camry, but occasionally I get buyer's remorse and
think I shoulda dropped an extra 10k for the intro Lexus IS 250 or
ES 330. Would anyone know if these '06 Lexus models were selling at
invoice (or perhaps under invoice) like the '06 Camry was last year?

I bought the Camry for about $1,200 under invoice. Do you think the
same would have been possible for the '06 intro Lexus models?

Also, would you happen to know if the size of the interior space is
about equal between the '06 Camry and the IS 250? I mean the intro
Lexus isn't a small-size sedan like the intro BMW 3 Series model is
it? (Looks like the IS 250 is three-quarters of a foot shorter in
length than the '06 Camry LE.)


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Built_Well
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 06-04-2006 , 08:47 AM



Thanks for that information about the below-invoice quote. Nice to
see that!

May I ask what you mean by "peace of mind buying the Camry" over the
ES350?


rithkem (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
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I went to the dealership in Fairfax and was quoted 1500 below the
invoice
on the ES350, its a nice Ride but I'd rather have the piece of mind
buying the Camry.
its too bad the Camry has a funny Nose.


Built_Well wrote:
I really love my Camry, but occasionally I get buyer's remorse and
think I shoulda dropped an extra 10k for the intro Lexus IS 250 or
ES 330. Would anyone know if these '06 Lexus models were selling at
invoice (or perhaps under invoice) like the '06 Camry was last year?

I bought the Camry for about $1,200 under invoice. Do you think the
same would have been possible for the '06 intro Lexus models?

Also, would you happen to know if the size of the interior space is
about equal between the '06 Camry and the IS 250? I mean the intro
Lexus isn't a small-size sedan like the intro BMW 3 Series model is
it? (Looks like the IS 250 is three-quarters of a foot shorter in
length than the '06 Camry LE.)


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David Z
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 06-04-2006 , 08:59 AM



<rithkem (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote


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I went to the dealership in Fairfax and was quoted 1500
below the invoice on the ES350...
Wow! That sounds like a great price. Are you sure that's a 2007 ES350
or are you talking about a 2006 ES330? Or do you mean $1,500 below
sticker for a 2007 ES350?

That would be a great price for a 2006 ES330.

I can't imagine that the 2007 ES330 is selling for $1,500 below invoice
after being introduced only about a month or 2 ago.




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Built_Well
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 06-04-2006 , 05:18 PM



Viperkiller wrote:
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....the Lexus dealers enjoy exclusive markets for the most part.
We're lucky here in mid-Missouri. A hundred miles away in Saint Louis,

there are two independent Lexus dealerships separated by only 7 miles.

I hope Rithkem (AT) AOL (DOT) COM will confirm for us that a Fairfax, Virginia
dealership quoted him a price $1,500 under _invoice_ and not $1,500
under
_MSRP_ or "sticker." Anxiously waiting.



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kegler@bowling.net
 
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Default Re: Lexus, baby, Lexus - 06-04-2006 , 05:51 PM



You could hear a pin drop when the almighty "Built_Well"
<Built_Well_Toyota (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> addressed his adoring fans with these
immortal words:

Quote:
Viperkiller wrote:
....the Lexus dealers enjoy exclusive markets for the most part.

We're lucky here in mid-Missouri. A hundred miles away in Saint Louis,

there are two independent Lexus dealerships separated by only 7 miles.

I hope Rithkem (AT) AOL (DOT) COM will confirm for us that a Fairfax, Virginia
dealership quoted him a price $1,500 under _invoice_ and not $1,500
under
_MSRP_ or "sticker." Anxiously waiting.

if it's in Fairfax Va., it's Pohanka Lexus in Chantilly Va.

It's where I got my LS430. It's an outstanding dealership IMHO.



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