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Default Re: Lexus' Paint - 09-22-2005 , 04:33 PM







"HarleyVa (AT) nospam (DOT) com" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote

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I think you guys need to distiguish between "Soft and Hard" and
"Brittle and Flexible". If the paint was "soft" it would not chip
since the movement of the paint would diffuse the energy needed to chip
it. Thats like saying that Play-Doh chips...I know thats on the
extreme side but you get my point. Soft or hard, if the paint is
flexible it will diffuse the energy rather than break or crack. It
mostly has to do with the way the atoms are held together. Think about
a bucket of sand....if you slowly push your hand into it, technically,
it is soft; but try to punch the sand and it won't budge. Also, in a
thin layer like paint on a car the properties change. Steel is hard
but sheet metal bends easily. The point is that water based paint is
not soft nor flexible; it is hard and brittle. A good example from the
industry is Lacquer automotive paint; hard but extreamly brittle.


not true. the paint is soft. You can scratch it with your fingernail
unlike older laquer based paints that were very hard and even harder
to chip.



Whether you wish to refer to it as hard or soft, my experience also reflects
that the Lexus paint is quite "fragile" and chips easily compared to
competitive brands. Fortunately for Lexus, most people don't care about the
appearance of their car and don't complain, and the few of us that do care
are not complaining loudly enough to attract their interest for a solution.

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Default Re: Lexus' Paint - 10-06-2005 , 08:09 PM






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On 19 Sep 2005 09:00:39 -0700, MikeGallagher (AT) paintworldinc (DOT) com graced
this newsgroup with:

I think you guys need to distiguish between "Soft and Hard" and
"Brittle and Flexible". If the paint was "soft" it would not chip
since the movement of the paint would diffuse the energy needed to chip
it. Thats like saying that Play-Doh chips...I know thats on the
extreme side but you get my point. Soft or hard, if the paint is
flexible it will diffuse the energy rather than break or crack. It
mostly has to do with the way the atoms are held together. Think about
a bucket of sand....if you slowly push your hand into it, technically,
it is soft; but try to punch the sand and it won't budge. Also, in a
thin layer like paint on a car the properties change. Steel is hard
but sheet metal bends easily. The point is that water based paint is
not soft nor flexible; it is hard and brittle. A good example from the
industry is Lacquer automotive paint; hard but extreamly brittle.


not true. the paint is soft. You can scratch it with your fingernail
unlike older laquer based paints that were very hard and even harder
to chip.




Whether you wish to refer to it as hard or soft, my experience also
reflects that the Lexus paint is quite "fragile" and chips easily compared
to competitive brands. Fortunately for Lexus, most people don't care
about the appearance of their car and don't complain, and the few of us
that do care are not complaining loudly enough to attract their interest
for a solution.
I'm definitely NOT like "most people" when it comes to the appearance of my
car. In fact, I am probably teetering on being obsessive-compulsive about
the cleaniness and mechanical condition of my cars. For some reason I have
been that way about all of my vehicles since I first started driving at age
16. Having a really nice ride can be a wonderful thing at times, but it can
also stress you out beyond belief for no good reason whatsoever. :-)
Sometimes it's just not worth concerning yourself with. At least the
cosmetic
aspect of it. I could never let go on the mechanical side of things.

Ron M.





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