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Re: Lexus vs Toyota -
04-18-2006
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My bad, I meant is the Mercedes or BMW a spruced of version of a less expensive car? Ever been to Europe? Love those Mercedes taxis. Though, in general, |
Seriously, both brands have many trim versions in each of their
European model lines. Heck even here in the states BMW has that
wonderful "Leatherette" read vinyl as the base open for the 3 and 5
series. At least MB no longer imports cars with that wonderful "MB
Tex." It was really funny to read MB's PR about the scientific nature
of the vinyl.
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"Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) |
known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In
Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I
believe the GS was the Windham.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9G01g.55150$wl.37839 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... "Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) Since the Lexus brand was only recently introduced in Japan, the vehicles known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I believe the GS was the Windham. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply) |
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"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9G01g.55150$wl.37839 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... "Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) Since the Lexus brand was only recently introduced in Japan, the vehicles known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I believe the GS was the Windham. |
I believe the Windham is the ES.
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:27:12 -0500, "Ray O" rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> graced this newsgroup with: "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9G01g.55150$wl.37839 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... "Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) Since the Lexus brand was only recently introduced in Japan, the vehicles known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I believe the GS was the Windham. I believe the Windham is the ES. |
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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Regarding Lexus' competition, are there any cars that would be considered spruced up Mercedes or BMWs? Are they not already the spruced up versions???..lol So the Avalon is pretty much the ES330? I disagree. The Avalon has more room, particularly in the back and trunk. |
appointments and is a bit more deluxe.
Al
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"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9G01g.55150$wl.37839 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... "Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) Since the Lexus brand was only recently introduced in Japan, the vehicles known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I believe the GS was the Windham. |
Actually the GS is known as the Aristo.
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:27:12 -0500, "Ray O" rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> graced this newsgroup with: "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9G01g.55150$wl.37839 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... "Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) Since the Lexus brand was only recently introduced in Japan, the vehicles known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I believe the GS was the Windham. I believe the Windham is the ES. |
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:27:12 -0500, "Ray O" rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote: "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9G01g.55150$wl.37839 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... "Bill in Yakima" <wjh1nospam (AT) yvn (DOT) com "Ah I didn't see a hold..." - John Madden, 2-5-06> wrote in message news:ncadncKa6voGgdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d (AT) yvn (DOT) com... The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. the GS had a Toyota badge equivalent (now dropped)(I have seen one!), likewise the LS (I haven't seen one of these and presumably it too was dropped from the Toyota line) Since the Lexus brand was only recently introduced in Japan, the vehicles known as Lexus in North America and Europe had a Toyota brand in Japan. In Japan., the LS was known as the Celsior, the SC was the Soarer, and I believe the GS was the Windham. Actually the GS is known as the Aristo. |
known as the Hilux.
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The ES is the only Lexus passenger car to share a platform with Toyota. The GS and LS are strictly Lexus cars. I was told that the top of the line SE Camry was built only in Japan and on a production line right next to the Lexus line. I don't have much experience with Toyotas, but I can tell you, IMHO, the Lexus GS-430 is worth every penny. |
GS (prior to 2005 model year) = Toyota Aristo in Japan (they removed it
from the official site, since it's no longer available, but some pics could
be found here: http://www.ytrd.com/KitPhotos/CarToyota/ARISTO.htm )
LS = Toyota Celsior in Japan ( still available on their web site:
http://toyota.jp/celsior/index.html )
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