Low Mileage Oil Changes

#11

Yeah -- you have to hire a lawyer.

"B. Newman" <bernardnewman (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

That's total B.S. As long as you do the services in the book and keep
receipts, no auto manufacturer can deny warranty repairs. That being said,
the real danger of not doing the right services is in the long term AFTER
the warranty period. So as long as you change the oil and do the bigger
maintenance as per the book, don't worry about it. And don't OVERmaintain
it
either.

"Tom Waugh" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Lexus bills it as a "minor" service -- with a laundry list of checks. We
were also advised that not having service done by Lexus could complicate
and
not assure warranty work, particularly when considering the oil gelling
problem. We traded on a Honda Pilot at our local Honda dealer who has
always
treated me squarely. We have not been impressed with Lexus.

"Car Guy" <nothing (AT) something (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Z7a5b.7803$Sq5.211078 (AT) news20 (DOT) bellglobal.com...
Tom,

$150 for an oil change is a total ripoff. I take a jug of Mobil 1 to
my
dealership and have them perform the oil change. It costs about $22
for
the
filter and labour and about $30 for the oil. The prices quoted are
Canadian
$$.

"Tom Waugh" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
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When we owned an RX 300, the dealer told us to change every 5k miles
owing
to the oil gelling problem. Of course, the 5 k service is $150.00.

"Sac Town T" <Tonyii (AT) softcom (DOT) net> wrote in message
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My 03 RX300 is hardly driven 1500 miles in 5 months. How often
should
I
change the oil, Every 5000 miles or 5 month intervals.

Tony

#12

Don't be so quick about saying that you have to hire a lawyer.

If the dealer is saying that Lexus will not honor the warranty because
the customer changed his/her oil than the dealer is speaking out of
the side of his mouth because he has nothing to say about it. The
warranty is from Toyota. If Toyota/Lexus is saying it than they are
in violation of Section 102 of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. This
section covers tie-in sales. The section forbids, "You must use our
service and products or the warranty is void" type of statement.
Toyota found this out not too long ago when it tried to disallow oil
changes done at Jiffy Lube and the like in the gelling case. (Assuming
that the plaintiffs followed the change intervals) They could have
faced a class action lawsuit in federal court. A suit that they had
no way of wining because the violation of the act is cut and dry. And
since it is in federal court, Toyota would not only have to paid the
judgment against itself but would have also had to pay the plaintiffs
lawyers fees.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:14:13 -0400, "twaugh5" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

Yeah -- you have to hire a lawyer.

"B. Newman" <bernardnewman (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:IgE5b.166907$2x.47511 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net...
That's total B.S. As long as you do the services in the book and keep
receipts, no auto manufacturer can deny warranty repairs. That being said,
the real danger of not doing the right services is in the long term AFTER
the warranty period. So as long as you change the oil and do the bigger
maintenance as per the book, don't worry about it. And don't OVERmaintain
it
either.

"Tom Waugh" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:mcu5b.18993$j26.11103 (AT) lakeread02 (DOT) ..
Lexus bills it as a "minor" service -- with a laundry list of checks. We
were also advised that not having service done by Lexus could complicate
and
not assure warranty work, particularly when considering the oil gelling
problem. We traded on a Honda Pilot at our local Honda dealer who has
always
treated me squarely. We have not been impressed with Lexus.

#13

http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides...s/undermag.htm

"I am" <will-i-am (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Don't be so quick about saying that you have to hire a lawyer.

If the dealer is saying that Lexus will not honor the warranty because
the customer changed his/her oil than the dealer is speaking out of
the side of his mouth because he has nothing to say about it. The
warranty is from Toyota. If Toyota/Lexus is saying it than they are
in violation of Section 102 of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. This
section covers tie-in sales. The section forbids, "You must use our
service and products or the warranty is void" type of statement.
Toyota found this out not too long ago when it tried to disallow oil
changes done at Jiffy Lube and the like in the gelling case. (Assuming
that the plaintiffs followed the change intervals) They could have
faced a class action lawsuit in federal court. A suit that they had
no way of wining because the violation of the act is cut and dry. And
since it is in federal court, Toyota would not only have to paid the
judgment against itself but would have also had to pay the plaintiffs
lawyers fees.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 19:14:13 -0400, "twaugh5" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

Yeah -- you have to hire a lawyer.

"B. Newman" <bernardnewman (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:IgE5b.166907$2x.47511 (AT) rwcrnsc52 (DOT) ops.asp.att.net...
That's total B.S. As long as you do the services in the book and keep
receipts, no auto manufacturer can deny warranty repairs. That being
said,
the real danger of not doing the right services is in the long term
AFTER
the warranty period. So as long as you change the oil and do the bigger
maintenance as per the book, don't worry about it. And don't
OVERmaintain
it
either.

"Tom Waugh" <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:mcu5b.18993$j26.11103 (AT) lakeread02 (DOT) ..
Lexus bills it as a "minor" service -- with a laundry list of checks.
We
were also advised that not having service done by Lexus could
complicate
and
not assure warranty work, particularly when considering the oil
gelling
problem. We traded on a Honda Pilot at our local Honda dealer who has
always
treated me squarely. We have not been impressed with Lexus.

#14

Follow the instructions in the owners manual. Consumer Reports did a study
on NYC taxicabs. They took brand new cabs, and split them into two,
statistically significant groups. The first group received oil changes
every three thousand miles. The second group received them every five to
six thousand miles (based on manufacturer's specifications).

At the end of 100,000 miles, they tore down the engines, and measured
various components. They discovered that there was no difference between
the two engines.

Follow the instructions in your owners manual.

Chris

"Sac Town T" <Tonyii (AT) softcom (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

My 03 RX300 is hardly driven 1500 miles in 5 months. How often should I
change the oil, Every 5000 miles or 5 month intervals.

Tony

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