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Default es350 tranny problem? - 08-19-2006 , 09:37 AM






Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -



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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-19-2006 , 11:23 AM






harlen wrote:
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Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -


I own an ES350 and have not noticed a lag problem. However, since Lexus
is more of a luxury brand, it is not nearly as responsive as an Infiniti.


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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-19-2006 , 06:43 PM



I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site, the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote

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Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -




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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-19-2006 , 09:25 PM



I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
Quote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site, the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -



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Mike Piacente
 
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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-20-2006 , 09:51 AM



are you a noticeable transmission lag (by both me and my wife when we each
drove the car) is 'a matter of attitude and perception?' is any Lexus (or
other automobile) problem 'a matter of attitude and perception?'
Essentially, what you're saying is there is no such thing as reality,
anything and everything is 'a matter of attitude and perception.'

Alot of people have posted to this web site as well as the
us.lexusownersclub.com complaining of the same problem with their lexuses up
to, and including, the 2005 model year. Are they/we all hallucinating?

I notice you stated that you have a 'brand new ES350 (sic)' which I assume
you mean 2006? If so, then do you think that Lexus finally fixed the
'perceived' transmission lag problem in the '06s and that's why you don't
have that problem? Just because you don't have/haven't had a problem
experienced by other Lexus owners doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

After the dealer reprogrammed my '05 ES 330 computer, the lag is gone. I
love the car and would consider buying Lexuses from now on.


<aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -





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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-20-2006 , 12:34 PM




"Carroll Boardway" <mcboard (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
harlen wrote:
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -
I own an ES350 and have not noticed a lag problem. However, since Lexus
is more of a luxury brand, it is not nearly as responsive as an Infiniti.
Do you own an Infiniti car? If you do, as a return buyer, would you buy a
Lexus or Infiniti? We own a ES300 and it has been good to us.

Thanks -




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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-20-2006 , 02:35 PM



What some don't realize is that right after a reprogramming, or even after
an oil change where the dealer resets the ECU, the transmission will behave
more normally as it "learns" the driver's habits. It's after sufficient
"learning" that the car will behave inconsistently. For the previous poster
who cited JD Power, etc., he probably doesn't do any heavy rush hour
stop-and-go type driving, which is where the problem rears its ugly head the
worst. If you have the luxury of driving less aggressivtly, then he is
right, you probably wouldn't notice the transmission "problem".


"Mike Piacente" <mpiacente (AT) adelphia (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
are you a noticeable transmission lag (by both me and my wife when we each
drove the car) is 'a matter of attitude and perception?' is any Lexus (or
other automobile) problem 'a matter of attitude and perception?'
Essentially, what you're saying is there is no such thing as reality,
anything and everything is 'a matter of attitude and perception.'

Alot of people have posted to this web site as well as the
us.lexusownersclub.com complaining of the same problem with their lexuses
up to, and including, the 2005 model year. Are they/we all hallucinating?

I notice you stated that you have a 'brand new ES350 (sic)' which I assume
you mean 2006? If so, then do you think that Lexus finally fixed the
'perceived' transmission lag problem in the '06s and that's why you don't
have that problem? Just because you don't have/haven't had a problem
experienced by other Lexus owners doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

After the dealer reprogrammed my '05 ES 330 computer, the lag is gone. I
love the car and would consider buying Lexuses from now on.


aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -







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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-20-2006 , 04:27 PM



You are correct... I don't live in a metropolitan city. Can't stand the
traffic, air pollution and waste of time driving to work and drive on
the highway, or waiting in intersections. In my city, a rush hour
usually last 5 minutes (or perhaps 10 minutes at the most) every
morning and afternoon.
Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never
speed! I enjoy the ride and the feeling of having the best cars in the
world. They are reliable cars, and I believe it and trust them. They
never let me down ... rain, shine, snow, etc. End of the story.

Steve Larson wrote:
Quote:
What some don't realize is that right after a reprogramming, or even after
an oil change where the dealer resets the ECU, the transmission will behave
more normally as it "learns" the driver's habits. It's after sufficient
"learning" that the car will behave inconsistently. For the previous poster
who cited JD Power, etc., he probably doesn't do any heavy rush hour
stop-and-go type driving, which is where the problem rears its ugly head the
worst. If you have the luxury of driving less aggressivtly, then he is
right, you probably wouldn't notice the transmission "problem".


"Mike Piacente" <mpiacente (AT) adelphia (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:JKidnd-R84hu9XXZnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d (AT) adelphia (DOT) com...
are you a noticeable transmission lag (by both me and my wife when we each
drove the car) is 'a matter of attitude and perception?' is any Lexus (or
other automobile) problem 'a matter of attitude and perception?'
Essentially, what you're saying is there is no such thing as reality,
anything and everything is 'a matter of attitude and perception.'

Alot of people have posted to this web site as well as the
us.lexusownersclub.com complaining of the same problem with their lexuses
up to, and including, the 2005 model year. Are they/we all hallucinating?

I notice you stated that you have a 'brand new ES350 (sic)' which I assume
you mean 2006? If so, then do you think that Lexus finally fixed the
'perceived' transmission lag problem in the '06s and that's why you don't
have that problem? Just because you don't have/haven't had a problem
experienced by other Lexus owners doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

After the dealer reprogrammed my '05 ES 330 computer, the lag is gone. I
love the car and would consider buying Lexuses from now on.


aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it again?

Many thanks -






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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-22-2006 , 12:34 AM



On 20 Aug 2006 13:27:03 -0700, aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never
speed!
That's where the misconception is: the tranny lag does not manifest
itself by speeding! It's when the car is slowing down (say when
nearing a red light) and then you step on the gas (as when the light
unexpectedly turns green and before the car completely stops).


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Default Re: es350 tranny problem? - 08-23-2006 , 09:37 AM



You, my friend, are blessed. I sure would like to get off the interstate,
and I sure don't like the thick smog here in Atlanta.


<aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
You are correct... I don't live in a metropolitan city. Can't stand the
traffic, air pollution and waste of time driving to work and drive on
the highway, or waiting in intersections. In my city, a rush hour
usually last 5 minutes (or perhaps 10 minutes at the most) every
morning and afternoon.
Even with my GS430 which can hit 60 mph in about 6 seconds, I never
speed! I enjoy the ride and the feeling of having the best cars in the
world. They are reliable cars, and I believe it and trust them. They
never let me down ... rain, shine, snow, etc. End of the story.

Steve Larson wrote:
What some don't realize is that right after a reprogramming, or even
after
an oil change where the dealer resets the ECU, the transmission will
behave
more normally as it "learns" the driver's habits. It's after sufficient
"learning" that the car will behave inconsistently. For the previous
poster
who cited JD Power, etc., he probably doesn't do any heavy rush hour
stop-and-go type driving, which is where the problem rears its ugly head
the
worst. If you have the luxury of driving less aggressivtly, then he is
right, you probably wouldn't notice the transmission "problem".


"Mike Piacente" <mpiacente (AT) adelphia (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:JKidnd-R84hu9XXZnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d (AT) adelphia (DOT) com...
are you a noticeable transmission lag (by both me and my wife when we
each
drove the car) is 'a matter of attitude and perception?' is any Lexus
(or
other automobile) problem 'a matter of attitude and perception?'
Essentially, what you're saying is there is no such thing as reality,
anything and everything is 'a matter of attitude and perception.'

Alot of people have posted to this web site as well as the
us.lexusownersclub.com complaining of the same problem with their
lexuses
up to, and including, the 2005 model year. Are they/we all
hallucinating?

I notice you stated that you have a 'brand new ES350 (sic)' which I
assume
you mean 2006? If so, then do you think that Lexus finally fixed the
'perceived' transmission lag problem in the '06s and that's why you
don't
have that problem? Just because you don't have/haven't had a problem
experienced by other Lexus owners doesn't mean the problem doesn't
exist.

After the dealer reprogrammed my '05 ES 330 computer, the lag is gone.
I
love the car and would consider buying Lexuses from now on.


aniramca (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1156037101.895047.13130 (AT) i42g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
I think it is a matter of attitude and perception. My brand new ES350
is doing fine. So does my older GS430 and RX300. If people want to
complain and not be content about something, there is always something
wrong with anything on earth!
I enjoy my cars, and treat them as top of the line and first class
cars... and that is just what matters. Look around at the Consumer
Reports and JD Power.... They proved that Lexus is on top of anything
else in the market. The majority of consumers are happy and willing to
get more of them. Even if their line drops to the Toyota's level...
they are still better than the other rivals.
We just have to content on what these cars perform and compare
against
other inferior luxury imports and domestic junks.
On the other hand, people who have a grudge against this brand...
perhaps they should go and get the other brands and be happy about it.
Otherwise, nothing will satisfy their mind. Or... perhaps build their
own car!
Mind you, like anything else in life, it is lonely at the top. The
rivals want to topple the position (at any costs!), and there is only
one way to go... downhill!.
I selected Lexus as my brand choice and I never regret, and will
likely
never change. as far as I know, it is the best in my mind.

Mike Piacente wrote:
I have an '05 ES330 and when I first bought it I did notice a
transmission
lag, but after I took it in for the first 5,000-mile checkup, it
disappeared. I think the dealer must have installed a
computer-program
fix
in the fuel-feed or mixture routine. From what I've read on this
site,
the
lag problem has/had to do with a program error in the fuel feed or
mixuture.


"harlen" <harlenng (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:NuEFg.10756$kO3.4854 (AT) newssvr12 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
Has anyone driven an ES350 and experienced a transmission lag
problem?

Also, if you are an owner of one, would you recommend buying it
again?

Many thanks -








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