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A couple of things.. My mom had a jag in the late 80s, maybe early 90s. She had leased it.....it was the most unreliable POS imaginable. An incredible amount of electrical problems. Half the time it would not even start (often stranding her somewhere). She returned it to the leasing agency within 2 months. In contrast, the relatively newjag she has now is quite nice....good ride and has held up nicely. Nothing worse than an unreliable car. Nothing worse than going to start a car and it won't....or being stranded at the side of the road. Once bitten twice shy. Too bad that overall for the auto biz, there is not better quality. |
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kegler (AT) bowling (DOT) net> wrote in message news:tj0c121b56orp9nv6gejjd2242pkm7bu5k (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:32:43 -0500, "b22r" <b22r (AT) erols (DOT) com> graced this newsgroup with: kegler (AT) bowling (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4vo912ln472eamnhvfutn3n83ar1pi871n (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:24:03 -0500, "b22r" <b22r (AT) erols (DOT) com graced this newsgroup with: snip ....I'm there. The sc430? Sheeeesh.....even too refined for my 80 yr old mom (who drives a high end jag). is there even such a thing as a high end Jag? No thanks, been there, done that. Never own a Jag again thankyouverymuch Hey....makes my mom happy (80 years old) and the thing is exceptionally reliable (not like in the old days)...so mom....ROCK ON! ..which is also surprising to me since the Jags are in the basement in all the reviews I've read as well. Hey....maybe my family has been extremely lucky with our cars. My bet is that it definitely helps that we drive low milage cars and only keep them a few years.....the trials and tribulations of all of us getting a new car every year in the 70s (my dad would buy cars wholesale that just came off lease from his friend who owned a dealership, we'd keep them for a year and then my dad would sell them at a profit....obviously my dad wanted to be a car salesman but instead was stuck with a multimillion dollar advertising company) |
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....I'm there. The sc430? Sheeeesh.....even too refined for my 80 yr old mom (who drives a high end jag). is there even such a thing as a high end Jag? No thanks, been there, done that. Never own a Jag again thankyouverymuch Hey....makes my mom happy (80 years old) and the thing is exceptionally reliable (not like in the old days)...so mom....ROCK ON! ..which is also surprising to me since the Jags are in the basement in all the reviews I've read as well. Hey....maybe my family has been extremely lucky with our cars. My bet is that it definitely helps that we drive low milage cars and only keep them a few years.....the trials and tribulations of all of us getting a new car every year in the 70s (my dad would buy cars wholesale that just came off lease from his friend who owned a dealership, we'd keep them for a year and then my dad would sell them at a profit....obviously my dad wanted to be a car salesman but instead was stuck with a multimillion dollar advertising company) Thats so great, to have a dad like that! Yes, than why not drive the mercedes? Drive it 2-4 years and sell it when its ready for some intensive upkeep expenses.You DA MAN!! BY the way, what car will i get when the time comes for a sedan?? A Mercury Grand Marquis!! Thats because my dad was simple civil servant ,although he died quite comfortably upper midde class. What did he taech me? Crown Vics are the best choice all around for Price versus value, comfort, and reliability.Thjere, Ive said it. This is MY thread and im sticking to it! |
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Nothing worse than an unreliable car. Nothing worse than going to start a car and it won't....or being stranded at the side of the road. Once bitten twice shy. Too bad that overall for the auto biz, there is not better quality. I agree. I had a VW Rabbit that did the same things. It's been over 25 years, but I swore I'd never buy another VW, and probably another German car, ever again.....and I haven't. The Japanese have elevated reliability to an art form. Amazingly, Hyundai is nearly that good these days. Heck, if a company that just a few years ago was building cars in buildings that had dirt floors can now build a car that reliable, there's no reason on earth why Europe and the Big 3 can't to it too.....other than that they can't be bothered. Similarly, now that they know how to make reliable cars, I don't see why Lexus can't build a car that's attractive and sporty......other than that they don't want too because too many people are buying are buying their blandmobiles now. -- An unreliable car is kinda like a cheatin girlfriend......once you get |
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A couple of things.. My mom had a jag in the late 80s, maybe early 90s. She had leased it.....it was the most unreliable POS imaginable. An incredible amount of electrical problems. Half the time it would not even start (often stranding her somewhere). She returned it to the leasing agency within 2 months. In contrast, the relatively newjag she has now is quite nice....good ride and has held up nicely. Nothing worse than an unreliable car. Nothing worse than going to start a car and it won't....or being stranded at the side of the road. Once bitten twice shy. Too bad that overall for the auto biz, there is not better quality. ironically, their quality went WAY up when Ford took them over. They completely re engineered their assembly process and introduced something the Brits were totally unfamiliar with...quality control. It's an incredible statement of just how bad your build quality is when FORD can come along and double, maybe triple, your reliability ratings. LOL.....the unreliable one that she briefly leased was Brit. What she drives |
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In article <1142402278.455052.195300 (AT) i39g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "Totaltully" <bpatil (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: The Lexus brand is about 22 years old now. 16, coming up on 17 |
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: In article <1142402278.455052.195300 (AT) i39g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "Totaltully" <bpatil (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: The Lexus brand is about 22 years old now. 16, coming up on 17 16 is right. 1990 was the debut year. |
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:35:33 -0500, sloppybeak sloppybeak.245jgz (AT) no-mx (DOT) f...rdomain.com.au> wrote: as an owner of both, I like my benz better, the lexus is a fine car if you just want to get from here to there but for people who really enjoy driving the benz is far superior |
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The Lexus brand is about 22 years old now. The Mercedes one is over a 100 years old. Thats the biggest thing going for Merc. Likewise for BMW, Porsche and the other European brands. But quality will out. Lexus, Infinito and Acura will do to the European brands what the Toyota and Honda did to the big three. Might be a matter of 10 years or more... but it will happen. That said, what is still great about the European marquees are: 1. Great Styling 2. Performance and fun factor 3. Snob value (!!??) Lexus styling is still seems dominated by the Toyota Design Bible - make it timeless. Will Lexus do a spinoff like Scion - create out and out style icons with loads of performance. Now that's a thought! |
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