"dulles" <jf (AT) barada (DOT) com> quipped:

a data point is only good if there's something to compare it to.
Otherwise, it means nothing. It means zero for me to compare *your*
vehicle in *your* area with *your* regional mixture of gas with mine.

Additionally, your driving habits and road conditions may be vastly
different than mine. The comparison is only effective if you tell us
what you get with YOUR car on regular gas under the same driving
conditions your use premium on.

You need to compare apples to apples.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote


That's exactly my point.

Everyone has to make a choice as to whether they would prefer to have
the extra $5,000 or a new car. It's a choice based on a variety of
factors including the person's net worth. There are no blanket right or
wrong answers to this decision as you indicated earlier.

Of course not. Don't put words in my mouth as a way to deflect
attention from the fact the you made the incredibly stupid statement
that anyone who buys a new car is "stupid."

No, I'm just trying to get it through your thick head that everyone who
deviates from the world according to Elmo and/or the Elmo way of life is
not stupid, that's all.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> quipped:


I LIKE people who buy new Lexi. It makes a much bigger market for the
rest of us who prefer CPO'd Lexi.

Incidentally, I'm not "rich" by any stretch of the imagination, but I
am considered in the top 1% upper percentile income bracket (just ask
the IRS), and I still prefer to buy a CPO'd Lexus. For *me* anyway,
it allows me to own the car I want and still have money left over to
buy other things. It allows me more options with the same amount of
money.

Buying new isn't always best either. IIRC, the CPO'd warranty is
actually *better* than the new car warranty.

I personally, I'd never, ever buy a NEW house again either. I'll let
someone else handle the nightmare of contractors and faulty
construction.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop (AT) nastydesigns (DOT) com> wrote


You haven't a clue as to how stupid you sound, do you?

Apparently, that's not possible.

"stevie" <sf (AT) dum (DOT) org> wrote

My previous vehicle was a new Ford product (rapid depreciation, not smart).
I recently purchased a 2003 ES300 Lexus certified with luxury pkge which
still has 1 yr complete warrantee + an additional 2 yrs power train, 58,000
Km (Canada), one owner, always serviced at Lexus, for a good price. This is
my 1st luxury used car and I just love it including the fact it is
affordable for me without going into serious debt. For me, this feels like a
new car without the burden of big debt and initial years depreciation. To
each their own.

I wouldn't spend much time reading useless information (for *you*) then.
"Good" is only a relative term for *you*. A data point is only a point.
-d
<amstaffs (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote

Value is relative. If you feel you get good value from a new car, that's
your business. IF you feel you get good value from a used car, that's your
business. Value is not always related to $$.
-d
"McPhallus" <bjo (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

"dulles" <jf (AT) barada (DOT) com> quipped:


look..I'm trying to be nice and educate you but it's pretty apparent
that you're either too stupid to comprehend what I'm trying to say or
I need to get bigger crayons.

Either way, never mind.

I don't really see the value in always having to have a new car and going
through the buy-sell at a loss-buy again cycle over and over again every few
years. To me, it sounds like a response, at some level, to product
marketing. That's how car companies make money: by getting you to think
that your old car isn't good enough anymore. Those of us who buy used
really aren't helping Lexus out all that much.

"dulles" <jf (AT) barada (DOT) com> wrote

urp!
<amstaffs (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote