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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-17-2007 , 07:05 PM






In article <S19Vh.23452$254.11238 (AT) bignews7 (DOT) bellsouth.net>,
me <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:
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Bottom line; my wife let me buy it
ahhh, yes. No different here. Moreover I know it will have to be
an automatic, personally want a manual, so that she can drive it 'IF' the
mood might strike her to drive it.... bad back - she says.

Quote:
Actually I looked closely at the boxster, the audi TT and the honda as
well as the SLK.

The SLK320 won mainly because of two things: 1) it is more
comfortable, and 2) creature comfort is much better; it has a folding
HT.
I guess, the competition between these is to be expected. Your two
reasons are exactly why I'm leaning toward the SLK and the 320 in particular
after noting how rough the 4 cylinders run and the extra zip should wont
hurt - especially since I won't be putting a ton of miles on the car so gas
usage isn't a bit concern.

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I did not like the audi Fwd/4WD it felt funny and seemed to have
oversteer. The boxster was a much more refined (fun) sports car, but
would not be as practical. The Honda was nice, but under powered (like
the SLK230) and had very little in the way of creature comforts. I
would like to have found an SLK32 AMG, but no such luck (maybe
someday).

I ended up finding a 2002 SLK320 with the sports package, zenons etc.
for under Edmunds trade in value, so I (quick like a bunny) bought it
before my wife had time to reconsider . It is an automatic, so my
wife could drive it, but she won't want to (does not feel safe).

I love the car, but three caveats; 1) it is like riding a motorcycle,
people cannot/will not see you and will pull out in front of you, run
into you changing lanes etc. 2) Do not pull in too far in a parking
space. The AMG bumper is expensive and not very forgiving. 3) With the
top down there is *very* little trunk space.

The exhaust note could be a bit better, and I may have the resonator
removed.

I would like to add the aftermarket one touch top converter rather
than having to hold the switch.


thanks for that, hugely appreciated your 'heads up'.

cheers, guenter




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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-17-2007 , 09:58 PM







"Guenter Scholz" <scholz (AT) sciborg (DOT) uwaterloo.ca> wrote

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In article <S19Vh.23452$254.11238 (AT) bignews7 (DOT) bellsouth.net>,
me <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
The SLK320 won mainly because of two things: 1) it is more
comfortable, and 2) creature comfort is much better; it has a
folding
HT.

I guess, the competition between these is to be expected. Your two
reasons are exactly why I'm leaning toward the SLK and the 320 in
particular
after noting how rough the 4 cylinders run and the extra zip should
wont
hurt - especially since I won't be putting a ton of miles on the car
so gas
usage isn't a bit concern.

Not only that but it is comfortable.

I can drive from RTP, North Carolina to Atlanta (~5 hours) and still
walk when I get there. I knew I could not do that in the porsche or
honda (stiffer suspension), I might have been able to do that in the
audi, but the hard top, heated seats, rear wheel drive and decent HP
etc. on the SLK, sold me.

The 3.2 is a "torque-y" engine and the quasi manual slush box is fun
once you get use to it (I passed some bicyclists today "downshifting"
and braking before I got to them, once it was safe to pass, I could
wind it out a bit selecting the upshift at around 6 grand. It sounded
good. The top was down, life is good. All I need is my hair back

Even with the more comfortable ride, the car corners very well, it
goes where you point it with good manners. It is well balanced and
really "happy" on a back road at about 80 mph I definitely
recommend the "sport" package (wheels). It is fun but *not* a porsche,
though.

I don't drive that much either, but with this car on days like today,
I am looking for excuses. After time, I may be able to get my wife in
the car. She refuses to let me have a motorcycle

Did I mention it is comfortable for a sports car?





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Guenter Scholz
 
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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-18-2007 , 11:25 AM



....... all good points. You've sold me on the 320 SLK!

cheers, guenter

ps, did in fact try a Boxster last night... geez, almost had to crawl out of
the seat after the drive, which was pretty 'bumpy' .... I see what you mean
re comfort in the SLK.



In article <AigVh.8267$vD4.2016@bigfe9>, me <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:
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"Guenter Scholz" <scholz (AT) sciborg (DOT) uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message
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In article <S19Vh.23452$254.11238 (AT) bignews7 (DOT) bellsouth.net>,
me <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:


The SLK320 won mainly because of two things: 1) it is more
comfortable, and 2) creature comfort is much better; it has a
folding
HT.

I guess, the competition between these is to be expected. Your two
reasons are exactly why I'm leaning toward the SLK and the 320 in
particular
after noting how rough the 4 cylinders run and the extra zip should
wont
hurt - especially since I won't be putting a ton of miles on the car
so gas
usage isn't a bit concern.


Not only that but it is comfortable.

I can drive from RTP, North Carolina to Atlanta (~5 hours) and still
walk when I get there. I knew I could not do that in the porsche or
honda (stiffer suspension), I might have been able to do that in the
audi, but the hard top, heated seats, rear wheel drive and decent HP
etc. on the SLK, sold me.

The 3.2 is a "torque-y" engine and the quasi manual slush box is fun
once you get use to it (I passed some bicyclists today "downshifting"
and braking before I got to them, once it was safe to pass, I could
wind it out a bit selecting the upshift at around 6 grand. It sounded
good. The top was down, life is good. All I need is my hair back

Even with the more comfortable ride, the car corners very well, it
goes where you point it with good manners. It is well balanced and
really "happy" on a back road at about 80 mph I definitely
recommend the "sport" package (wheels). It is fun but *not* a porsche,
though.

I don't drive that much either, but with this car on days like today,
I am looking for excuses. After time, I may be able to get my wife in
the car. She refuses to let me have a motorcycle

Did I mention it is comfortable for a sports car?






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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-18-2007 , 01:26 PM




"Guenter Scholz" <scholz (AT) sciborg (DOT) uwaterloo.ca> wrote

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...... all good points. You've sold me on the 320 SLK!

cheers, guenter

ps, did in fact try a Boxster last night... geez, almost had to
crawl out of
the seat after the drive, which was pretty 'bumpy' .... I see what
you mean
re comfort in the SLK.

Right, but driving the boxster "S" for me is aerobic exercise




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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-20-2007 , 01:11 PM



Have you considered a CLK Cab to get even more space? Again, at least the
3.2 l engine. Very popular in London.

It's almost practical, even... at least it's the least impractical of the
impractical cars...

DAS

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"Guenter Scholz" <scholz (AT) sciborg (DOT) uwaterloo.ca> wrote

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...... all good points. You've sold me on the 320 SLK!

cheers, guenter

ps, did in fact try a Boxster last night... geez, almost had to crawl out
of
the seat after the drive, which was pretty 'bumpy' .... I see what you
mean
re comfort in the SLK.

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Guenter Scholz
 
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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-20-2007 , 08:00 PM



In article <cLednWx8lJbyn7TbnZ2dnUVZ8sDinZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>,
Dori A Schmetterling <info (AT) nospam (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Have you considered a CLK Cab to get even more space? Again, at least the
3.2 l engine. Very popular in London.

It's almost practical, even... at least it's the least impractical of the
impractical cars...

DAS
Dory, I was ready to purchase one and took the one who must be obeyed
along... mistake. Should have given it to her for a birthday present :-)
Seems only a practical sedan will do ... I then decided on a 2003 E320 (the
newer style, and I like to buy a bit older since I'm cheap) didn't particular
like it and TOWMBO thought it was on the gaudy side inside wht with all the
wood trim, swoops etc, I liked it, but who am I to argue. I've now decided to
get the A/C on my 300E (89) fixed.... that was her major problem with it since
she in fact likes the 2nd gear start and the fairly plain/practical inside
along with lot's of room and very quiet engine. Sooooo, maybe I'm allowed to
buy 'her' a little sports car like the SLK 320 .... she's going to NY with
our daughter for 10 days soon and I'm planning to possible have something
at home when she get's back and try to weather the storm....

- cheers, guenter




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Harri Markkula
 
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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-21-2007 , 03:45 AM




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The M-B V-6 is a 90 degree "V" with a counter rotating balance shaft
that's supposed to cancel the engine's inherent imbalance. A 60 degree
V6 needs no counter shaft, cylinders fire every 60 degrees of rotation
so the motor IS in a balanced state. A V-8 is even smoother as a
cylinder fires every 45 degrees of rotation. A 60 degree V-12 is even
smoother. And a straight six has no balance problem either for each
cylinder fires at 60 degrees and the cylinders are in a single row.

I believe that's the reason you felt the M-B V-6 was harsher than your
straight six, one of the smoothest sixes, IMHO.
Are they 2-stroke engines?

Reg: Harri




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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-21-2007 , 03:54 AM




"Guenter Scholz" <scholz (AT) sciborg (DOT) uwaterloo.ca> wrote

Quote:
Hi All

I drove the '03 E320 today and found myself rather disapointed
compared
to my old '89 300E. What am I missing here? it seemed to me that the
engine was not as smooth, almost a buzzy quality when accelerating...
definitely not as quiet as my old warhorse. then driving a V6 Camery
and
comparing the two, I didn't think there was all that much difference,
ie
the front wheel drive was rather similar wrt engine noise during
acceleration.
I'm starting to wonder if aluminum based engines are inherently noiser
compared to the old cast iron ones.... anyway, rather disapointed.
Anyone have any thoughts?
I suppose it's a computer to blame.

300E has a siple mechanical accelerating pedal but new one has
electrical and a computer between pedal and engine.

I had before a really great 190E 2,6 but now there is a E240 with V6
engine.

Reg: Harri




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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E - 04-21-2007 , 09:50 AM



2nd gear start is easily done in newer MB... just keep it in W position as
opposed to S mode.



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Dori A Schmetterling
 
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Default Re: '03 E320 vs '89 300E / small-car reliability - 04-22-2007 , 01:23 PM



Come to think of it, didn't we discuss this before?

Anyway, I think the more recent E and other class interiors (don't know in
what year it started, but after 2001) is very smart. The E320 is VERY
practical, isn't it?

If I ever get rid of my CLK that's probably what I would go for.

Thing is, I do 5K miles or less.

My wife has our old 190E and she sometimes mutters about a newer car, but
come September it'll be back down to a handfull of miles a week because our
son is starting at a school to which we are unlikely to drive very often,
using the Underground instead.

Still, I asked a couple of service managers at my Merc garage and they
advised to avoid A-Class before about 2003/4 and C-Class.

(I only asked about smaller cars.)

B-Class has no issues, they said. Scathing about older As, as you can see.

DAS

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Quote:
Dory, I was ready to purchase one and took the one who must be obeyed
along... mistake. Should have given it to her for a birthday present :-)
Seems only a practical sedan will do ... I then decided on a 2003 E320
(the
newer style, and I like to buy a bit older since I'm cheap) didn't
particular
like it and TOWMBO thought it was on the gaudy side inside wht with all
the
wood trim, swoops etc, I liked it, but who am I to argue. I've now
decided to
get the A/C on my 300E (89) fixed.... that was her major problem with it
since
she in fact likes the 2nd gear start and the fairly plain/practical inside
along with lot's of room and very quiet engine. Sooooo, maybe I'm allowed
to
buy 'her' a little sports car like the SLK 320 .... she's going to NY with
our daughter for 10 days soon and I'm planning to possible have something
at home when she get's back and try to weather the storm....

- cheers, guenter






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