Looking at some new Diesels. Should I consider the straight 6 CDI (used 05
or 06), or go ahead with the new Bluetec (non-Adblue version)? It seems as
if the Bluetec system is more complicated, but I haven't spoken with anyone
knowledgeable enough to know the advantages and disadvantages. Drove the
Bluetec and was impressed with the power and quietness, but the noise
doesn't bother me anyway.

Does anyone know if the E320 is getting AdBlue in the non-restricted states
in 2008?

Thanks,
Jeff

The plan is a 50 state V-6 diesel.
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Have you heard anything regarding the production timeframe for this model?

One thing I was considering was the European Delivery option, but I would
like to get in on the 2007s if the 2008 will require AdBlue.


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Don't know about its production or marketing schedule.

I've bought four cars under the European Delivery Program. Nice program
IF you're going to be in Europe anyway but ... traveling in Europe now,
spending our weak dollar is no fun, it's painful!

Domestic car shopping will achieve similar economics for most M-B models.
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Whatever happened to mbspy and Juergen? Seems like he disappeared.

I have never been - looking at a vacation of sorts. I have always wanted to
go and thought if I was going to get a new E320, that would be a great way
to pick it up.

Did you sell your 97?

Jeff

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I've found
http://www.emercedesbenz.com/
to be pretty good on the up-coming models and reviews, including one of the
Bluetec at Car and Driver (they prefer the gasoline E class).
http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...0-bluetec.html

John M.
also looking at a European delivery E320 diesel to replace my
'94 E320

If in doubt (and money allows) get the Bluetec.

See also my reply to Tiger.


Juergen
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Jeff wrote:

Tiger wrote:
Anyone calling me? I'm here, I'm here!!! ;-)))


MBSPY.COM is offline - much too much work involved!!!

Which especially means research, investigation and
digging through an ocean of information to be able
to select and prepare appropriate (= top, not any
"me too") site content.
That meant a total of 40+ hours a week for a hobby
project, which obviously is way too much in the
long run.


And to Bluetec:
Since some longer time it was more than obvious
that there is a relatively small, but very profitable
market for Diesel MBs in the USA.
At some time even the sleep caps in Stuttgart heard
the shoutings and decided to offer diesel passenger
cars in the US again.
Not only they grossly underestimated the size of the
market, but also had slept in terms of emmissions
with their entire diesel engine line as they were soooo
busy to pump up power output (e.g. new C-Class W204
smallest diesel version 200CDI has 136 PS) they
neglected emissions (plus of course, why should
they change anything as long as the buyers bought
the old diesel engines? Yes, yes, the GM-and-Ford
syndrome...).

In 2006 they introduced BLUETEC, see the Press Kit at
<http://wwwsg.daimlerchrysler.com/SD7DEV/GMS/TEMPLATES/GMS_PRESS_KIT/0,2970,0-3-75739-1-1-text-1-75736,00.html>


Of course the whole matter has a lot of other
facets, mostly highly political ones, which are
too many and too complicated to be really
discussed here, but a summary for new car buyers
buying diesel passenger cars which can be drawn
from them is:

A) What's environmentally (emissions related)
"state-of-the-art" today may in some few years
be "crap".
That means no more long-term security when
buying diesel cars, taxes may sky-rocket
or access to cities may be denied, all effecting
the resale value of the car.

B) Anything less than today's state-of-the-art
should not be bought.
So refrain from diesel cars without particulate
filters ex-factory and don't buy a car without
a maintenance-free system plus don't buy a car
whose system needs additives.

Note A) and B) are from observing Europe (and Germany
in particular), but I have no doubt are (or will be
soon) valid in countries like the USA, too.

Although I'm kind of a diesel fan I recommend to
think about the engine type, diesel or gas:
It turns out that there is a (not that small?)
number of people for whom driving a gas car would
be cheaper - of course that depends on many
variables like car's price, mileage per year,
insurance, taxes, fuel prices and the country you
live in as well as comparing engines with
similar power output.


Juergen

Hey Juergen! Good to hear from you. Yeah, I can understand it about hobby...
I kinda agree with you on diesel engine tech... it makes sense.

You know, I saw a show on DiscoveryHD here in USA... Futurecars... has
fascinating tidbits... especially diesel engine. Opel made a 1.8L diesel
engine for a racing car... which average speed at the track was 140 MPH and
yield 121 MPG...

Since Opel is not sold in USA... I wondered if that engine is already
available in European market.