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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-06-2007 , 10:55 AM







Paul McKechnie wrote:
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jdoe,
some people must have a misconseption of the
knowledge of truck drivers. Yes some may have a hard time remembering
their own name, but most know far more than most of us will ever know. How
do I know, my son is a truck driver. I promice you, he knows about the ULSD
and the problems it can create. He does not deliver fuel, but does have all
the Hazmat indorsments on his CDL. He talks to other drivers and hears
their experiences with different fuels. By the way, he does all work on his
truck, and I mean ALL work. From general maintaince to complete overhaul.
He says, ULSD has problems and is just using additives until the formular is
worked out and at that time will take the necessary steps to make the truck
work.
This implies that the domestic diesel refiners have a motivation to
use a formulation
that is different from the tried and tested formulations used in
Europe.

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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-06-2007 , 11:52 AM







greek_philosophizer wrote:
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Paul McKechnie wrote:
jdoe,
some people must have a misconseption of the
knowledge of truck drivers. Yes some may have a hard time remembering
their own name, but most know far more than most of us will ever know. How
do I know, my son is a truck driver. I promice you, he knows about the ULSD
and the problems it can create. He does not deliver fuel, but does have all
the Hazmat indorsments on his CDL. He talks to other drivers and hears
their experiences with different fuels. By the way, he does all work on his
truck, and I mean ALL work. From general maintaince to complete overhaul.
He says, ULSD has problems and is just using additives until the formular is
worked out and at that time will take the necessary steps to make the truck
work.

This implies that the domestic diesel refiners have a motivation to
use a formulation
that is different from the tried and tested formulations used in
Europe.

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and may also explain the lack of haste surrounding the introduction
of the 2007 Sprinter.


http://www.archive.org/download/gd77...k.shnf_vbr.m3u


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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-07-2007 , 06:37 PM



What? Not sniffing tailpipes, then?

DAS

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and seems like diesels have been stinking a lot less lately.......

not that I have gone out of my way to make a determination or
anything.....

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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-07-2007 , 06:38 PM



Mechanics yes (of course, even), but truck drivers?

DAS

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"Paul" <pmckechnie (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote

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jdoe,
A lot of times when you want to find out the truth, truck drivers,
mechanics, etc are your best source of information. Agreed they may not
have a PHD in chemistry, but they see a lot of problems on the equipment
they deal with. For instance if you want to know the most trouble free
car , ask a wrecker driver, not Consumer Repoff. A wrecker driver is paid
to get the cars to the repair station. Consumer Ripoff is paid to say
that a car is best when it may not be. Take a Ford Taurus for instance.
Ask Consumer Ripoff and then ask a mechanic.
Sooo, ask the one with experience and nothing to gain and you will get the
best answer.

Pmckechnie

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On 5 Jan 2007 04:01:26 -0800, "heav" <paul (AT) inyopro (DOT) com> wrote:



That is why I found it so interesting to learn from the tanker driver

With all due respect, getting your info from a truck driver? if he had
any real expertise do you think he'd be driving a delivery truck?
Maybe if your info came from a scientific orientated person I'd attach
some credibility to it. certainly I realize that when something is
added or taken away from a formula there will be unintended
consequences, that said, I have no solid info to offer other than I've
had no issues with the new fuel, no gaskets being burned up and no
noticeable drop in MPG, I drive 2-3k miles a month.





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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-07-2007 , 06:42 PM



It's certainly a slow tune...

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and may also explain the lack of haste surrounding the introduction
of the 2007 Sprinter.


http://www.archive.org/download/gd77...k.shnf_vbr.m3u


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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-07-2007 , 06:44 PM



jdoe wrote:

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That is why I found it so interesting to learn from the tanker driver

With all due respect, getting your info from a truck driver?
Yeah, I'm sure pencil-pushing desk jockeys know more about how well
trucks start than the people who actually, umm, start them for a living.

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if he had any real expertise do you think he'd be driving a delivery
truck?
Problems with comprehension are not the OP's fault.

Quote:
Maybe if your info came from a scientific orientated person...
Heh, ironic, eh? "scientfic orientated" coming from an AOLer, doesn't
get much better than that.


-tom!

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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-12-2007 , 01:29 PM




Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
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What? Not sniffing tailpipes, then?
Only if I ever test drive a 2007 Sprinter to see what they are like,
we have not gotten thme here yet....

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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-12-2007 , 01:32 PM




Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
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It's certainly a slow tune...
http://www.archive.org/download/gd77...k.shnf_vbr.m3u

It is what I was listening to when I made the Post, it is a 30 year old
fairly long concert so if you listen long enough there are some perky
parts. The musicianship is superior to the typical popular musical
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Default Re: Low sulfur diesel fuel - real information - 01-13-2007 , 06:27 PM




greek_philosophizer wrote:
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Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
It's certainly a slow tune...
http://www.archive.org/download/gd77...k.shnf_vbr.m3u


It is what I was listening to when I made the Post, it is a 30 year old
fairly long concert so if you listen long enough there are some perky
parts. The musicianship is superior to the typical popular musical
group.....
Specifically the song about Sampsom and Delilah. is perky ....

The 2007 Mercedes/Dodge Sprinter is supposed to be perky too but we in
the USA
have so far been unworthy of determinig that in person....

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