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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-12-2006 , 02:25 PM






Extract from my website regarding fitting a BL Mini Wiper motor to a Ford
Escort based loom:


Wipers

Assuming you are using a BL wiper motor, you have the problem that the wire
colours are different to those on the Escort.
The Escort has five wires to the wiper motor, in two groups - two power
wires (green and red, from the column stalk) which have a grey plug, and
three other wires via a black plastic connector to a headlamp-type plug on
the wiper body (these are the motor earth and the park wires).
The BL motor also has five wires doing the same jobs, going to a 5-way multi
connector with 4.8mm female spade terminals which plugs into the wiper unit.
You should cut off this connector with as much wire to spare as possible
when you get your motor from the scrapyard. You can remove the wires from it
by poking a small pointed object into the business side of each terminal -
there is a small cut-out - and bending the non-return lug flat. This allows
you to use new terminals. Or, you can leave the wires in place and make
soldered connections to the Escort wires.
The big question is, which Escort wire to which BL wire? OK - BL black is
the motor earth, which goes to Escort brown / white. Escort green is low
speed, and goes to BL red/green. Escort red is high speed, going to BL
blue/green. Escort black/violet is the park power supply and goes to BL
green. Escort black/brown is the park earth and goes to BL brown/green.
If your Escort has a wiper delay (marked on the column stalk, plus you have
a large red relay like a flasher relay) then this will work fine with the BL
motor. Its wiring isn't detailed in the Haynes manuals, so I can't help if
you don't have one but want to add one.

Cheers

Peter

"miniman" <trevor.deffee@(thecolourafterred!).net> wrote

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On 2006-04-14 15:35:56 +0100, "Westie" <neil (AT) n-hatton (DOT) demon.co.uk> said:

Hi All.


I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.

Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.

Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?

Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.




Many thanks,
Neil

Hi Neil

I can't remember offhand, will look later!

I would just supply each wire with 12v to see what they all do! as long
as the motor casing is grounded it would be fine!

miniman




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Default Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-14-2006 , 09:35 AM






Hi All.


I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.

Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.

Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?

Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.




Many thanks,
Neil


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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-15-2006 , 05:29 AM



On 2006-04-14 15:35:56 +0100, "Westie" <neil (AT) n-hatton (DOT) demon.co.uk> said:

Quote:
Hi All.


I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.

Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.

Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?

Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.




Many thanks,
Neil
Hi Neil

I can't remember offhand, will look later!

I would just supply each wire with 12v to see what they all do! as long
as the motor casing is grounded it would be fine!

miniman



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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-16-2006 , 01:11 AM



Westie wrote:
Quote:
Hi All.


I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.

Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.

Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?

Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.




Many thanks,
Neil

Red light green trace 22 TO #5 SWITCH

Brown with a light green trace 44 #7 SWITCH

Green is the main power supply 11 TO #4 SWITCH and power supply

earth 33

Blue with a pink trace 55 #2 switch

Wiper
11 22
33
44 55



Rocker Switch

1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8

Your colours don't make sense. Dont cross the wires as you could burn
the wiper and the auto park.

If there are only 3 wire then its a single speed????


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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-17-2006 , 02:46 AM



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<4441e006$0$10138$61c65585 (AT) un-2park-reader-01 (DOT) sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>
, Rob <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> writes
Quote:
Westie wrote:
Hi All.
I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.
Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.
Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?
Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.
Many thanks,
Neil


Red light green trace 22 TO #5 SWITCH

Brown with a light green trace 44 #7 SWITCH

Green is the main power supply 11 TO #4 SWITCH and power supply

earth 33

Blue with a pink trace 55 #2 switch

Wiper
11 22
33
44 55



Rocker Switch

1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8

Your colours don't make sense. Dont cross the wires as you could burn
the wiper and the auto park.

If there are only 3 wire then its a single speed????
The wire colours you mention are those in the wiring loom itself. From
what I remember, if you look at the wiper motor, the wire colours from
the inside of the motor to the attached plug/socket are different, and
may well be as the poster said. If I had a spare wiper motor I would
check, but I don't have a spare one. (And there's not much of them
visible either between the plastic body of the socket and the insides of
the motor).
--
Chris Morriss


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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-17-2006 , 09:51 AM



On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:46:53 +0100, Chris Morriss
<crsm (AT) oroboros (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
In message
4441e006$0$10138$61c65585 (AT) un-2park-reader-01 (DOT) sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
, Rob <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> writes
Westie wrote:
Hi All.
I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.
Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.
Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?
Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.
Many thanks,
Neil


Red light green trace 22 TO #5 SWITCH

Brown with a light green trace 44 #7 SWITCH

Green is the main power supply 11 TO #4 SWITCH and power supply

earth 33

Blue with a pink trace 55 #2 switch

Wiper
11 22
33
44 55



Rocker Switch

1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8

Your colours don't make sense. Dont cross the wires as you could burn
the wiper and the auto park.

If there are only 3 wire then its a single speed????

The wire colours you mention are those in the wiring loom itself. From
what I remember, if you look at the wiper motor, the wire colours from
the inside of the motor to the attached plug/socket are different, and
may well be as the poster said. If I had a spare wiper motor I would
check, but I don't have a spare one. (And there's not much of them
visible either between the plastic body of the socket and the insides of
the motor).

That's the way I read it too. I finally got to do some work on the
Fury today, so I took a photo...

http://www.stamp.plus.com/temp/InternalWiperWiring.JPG

I'd guess the three wires are ground, high speed and low speed. The
park switching is done inside the white plastic multi-plug thingy.

Cheers,

Colin.


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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-22-2006 , 06:41 PM





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"Your Only Supposed To Blow The Bloody Doors Off!"
"Colin Stamp" <col.dustbin (AT) stamp (DOT) plus.com> wrote

Quote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:46:53 +0100, Chris Morriss
crsm (AT) oroboros (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message
4441e006$0$10138$61c65585 (AT) un-2park-reader-01 (DOT) sydney.pipenetworks.com.au
, Rob <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> writes
Westie wrote:
Hi All.
I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.
Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.
Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?
Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.
Many thanks,
Neil


Red light green trace 22 TO #5 SWITCH

Brown with a light green trace 44 #7 SWITCH

Green is the main power supply 11 TO #4 SWITCH and power supply

earth 33

Blue with a pink trace 55 #2 switch

Wiper
11 22
33
44 55



Rocker Switch

1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8

Your colours don't make sense. Dont cross the wires as you could burn
the wiper and the auto park.

If there are only 3 wire then its a single speed????

The wire colours you mention are those in the wiring loom itself. From
what I remember, if you look at the wiper motor, the wire colours from
the inside of the motor to the attached plug/socket are different, and
may well be as the poster said. If I had a spare wiper motor I would
check, but I don't have a spare one. (And there's not much of them
visible either between the plastic body of the socket and the insides of
the motor).


That's the way I read it too. I finally got to do some work on the
Fury today, so I took a photo...

http://www.stamp.plus.com/temp/InternalWiperWiring.JPG

I'd guess the three wires are ground, high speed and low speed. The
park switching is done inside the white plastic multi-plug thingy.

Cheers,

Colin.
I assume yours is wired up correctly Colin? As I've saved that image for
reference?

Taffy



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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-24-2006 , 02:39 AM



On 14 Apr 2006 07:35:56 -0700, "Westie" <neil (AT) n-hatton (DOT) demon.co.uk>
wrote:

Quote:
Hi All.


I'm using a mini wiper motor in a Westfield, no idea of the donor
vehicle details, sorry.

Motor been working fine for years, but during rebuild work all three
wires have "popped" off the back of the multi plug on the motor!
There's red, blue and yellow, no doubt for park, single speed, double
speed.

Can anyone identify for me which wires are which?

Don't really want to take out and remove cover to identify.




Many thanks,
Neil

maybe this will help:
http://drcwww.uvt.nl/~bogaard/manual...c/wiperexp.gif

greetings,
Theo van den Bogaard


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Default Re: Help to Identify Wires on Mini Wiper Motor - 04-24-2006 , 12:39 PM



On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:41:39 +0100, "Taffy" <taffy_turner (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
I assume yours is wired up correctly Colin? As I've saved that image for
reference?

Taffy
Yep. It's all working fine - or it would be if only I had a
windscreen!

Cheers,

Colin.


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