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John Fatbloke Bullas
 
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Default IMM 2007? - 12-05-2005 , 02:55 PM






Where is IMM2007 being held? I didn't make it to Spain so don't know

Since COO is still in refit it might not make it to Poland!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/sets/666400/

For anyone with a BMW MINI you might wish to signup to my
BMW-MINI-COOPER (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com group as It is now quite busy, Real
Mini owners go to minilist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com....

I recall owners of Herbie VW Beetles call the nw ones "Big Golfs"

It is a shame the Mini heritage of the 1950s -1990s didn't make it over
the pond as the whole slanging match would be quite calm now.... for a
modern 21st century car it isn't bad and it has some of Rover Minis
saving graces, occasional unpredicatble mechanical failure and a
history of recalls, however to fix a 1975 mini you neede to be a
blacksmith , to fix a 2005 one you need to be a Microsoft Certified
Engineer

No noe can deny the Mini history has continued into the 2000's with a
unique car but at the same time the owners of the new one can't deny
the legacy ofthe old car made it the business proposition the BMW asset
strippers wanted....

Rover parts are still plentiful having been takenover by Caterpillar

FB
President of minilist and bmw-mini-cooper yahoogroups
& co-founder of mini-list (AT) autox (DOT) team.net
Webmaster http://www.ime.org.uk/


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David Betts
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-06-2005 , 02:01 AM






On 5 Dec 2005 12:55:59 -0800, "John Fatbloke Bullas"
<john.bullas (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Where is IMM2007 being held? I didn't make it to Spain so don't know

Since COO is still in refit it might not make it to Poland!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/sets/666400/

For anyone with a BMW MINI you might wish to signup to my
BMW-MINI-COOPER (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com group as It is now quite busy, Real
Mini owners go to minilist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com....

I recall owners of Herbie VW Beetles call the nw ones "Big Golfs"
.... or plastic Golfs, which is exactly what they are <g>. Quite how VW
expected anybody to take a front-wheel-drive, water-cooled 'Beetle'
seriously, God only knows.

Quote:
It is a shame the Mini heritage of the 1950s -1990s didn't make it over
the pond
Mostly true, but some of the most enthusiastic Mini owners I have ever
met have been from the US. After all, it was the great Rocky Frisco
himself who founded this newsgroup. Much harder for US enthusiasts to
source and maintan their cars, of course, and in theory they have to
be early ones (is it pre-'72?) to get round later restraint of trade
(posing as safety and environment) legislation. Still masses of them
out there, though.

A certain amount of cheating goes on as well. Quite a few brand-new
late model Rover Minis were imported into the US purporting to be
're-bodied' early cars by celebrities and the like. I know Tim Allen
had one, and one of them actually appears in the dull remake of The
Italian Job. A lot cooler to own than the BMW thing, but technically
illegal and there is always the risk that it could be confiscated.

It is understandable that the US market has taken to the BMW thing. It
is, after all, what it was aimed at and they have a much more limited
choice of cars than we do in Europe. Hard to argue that it isn't poor
value over here in relation to much of the competition, though. No
excuse for their owners infesting here, either.

Regards, David Betts
davidb (AT) minilist (DOT) org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334


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Rob
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-06-2005 , 04:00 AM



David Betts wrote:
Quote:
On 5 Dec 2005 12:55:59 -0800, "John Fatbloke Bullas"
john.bullas (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:


Where is IMM2007 being held? I didn't make it to Spain so don't know

Since COO is still in refit it might not make it to Poland!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/sets/666400/

For anyone with a BMW MINI you might wish to signup to my
BMW-MINI-COOPER (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com group as It is now quite busy, Real
Mini owners go to minilist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com....

I recall owners of Herbie VW Beetles call the nw ones "Big Golfs"


... or plastic Golfs, which is exactly what they are <g>. Quite how VW
expected anybody to take a front-wheel-drive, water-cooled 'Beetle'
seriously, God only knows.


The technology in the new VW Golfs is something to be admired yes water
cooled FWD. - leaves the Bini for dead.





Quote:
It is a shame the Mini heritage of the 1950s -1990s didn't make it over
the pond


Mostly true, but some of the most enthusiastic Mini owners I have ever
met have been from the US. After all, it was the great Rocky Frisco
himself who founded this newsgroup. Much harder for US enthusiasts to
source and maintan their cars, of course, and in theory they have to
be early ones (is it pre-'72?) to get round later restraint of trade
(posing as safety and environment) legislation. Still masses of them
out there, though.

A certain amount of cheating goes on as well. Quite a few brand-new
late model Rover Minis were imported into the US purporting to be
're-bodied' early cars by celebrities and the like. I know Tim Allen
had one, and one of them actually appears in the dull remake of The
Italian Job. A lot cooler to own than the BMW thing, but technically
illegal and there is always the risk that it could be confiscated.

It is understandable that the US market has taken to the BMW thing. It
is, after all, what it was aimed at and they have a much more limited
choice of cars than we do in Europe. Hard to argue that it isn't poor
value over here in relation to much of the competition, though. No
excuse for their owners infesting here, either.

Regards, David Betts
davidb (AT) minilist (DOT) org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334

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David Betts
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-06-2005 , 04:40 AM



On Tue, 06 Dec 2005 21:00:43 +1100, Rob <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
David Betts wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 12:55:59 -0800, "John Fatbloke Bullas"
john.bullas (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

For anyone with a BMW MINI you might wish to signup to my
BMW-MINI-COOPER (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com group as It is now quite busy, Real
Mini owners go to minilist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com....

I recall owners of Herbie VW Beetles call the nw ones "Big Golfs"

... or plastic Golfs, which is exactly what they are <g>. Quite how VW
expected anybody to take a front-wheel-drive, water-cooled 'Beetle'
seriously, God only knows.

The technology in the new VW Golfs is something to be admired yes water
cooled FWD. - leaves the Bini for dead.
Certainly the new Golf GTI should be a serious consideration for
anyone considering a new sporting Eurohatch. Almost back to the
standard of the original after years of getting heavier and less
dynamically satisfying. Pricey compared with much of the French,
Italian and Japanese competition, though, and the build quality
advantage what it used to be.

Still, getting off topic here. I'd rather have my Mini. Much more fun.

Regards, David Betts
davidb (AT) minilist (DOT) org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334


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t.a.j.m.vdnbogaard@REMOVEuvt.nl
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-06-2005 , 06:32 AM



On 5 Dec 2005 12:55:59 -0800, "John Fatbloke Bullas"
<john.bullas (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Where is IMM2007 being held? I didn't make it to Spain so don't know

Since COO is still in refit it might not make it to Poland!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/sets/666400/

AFAIK it's scheduled to be in Denmark.

FWIW,
Theo van den Bogaard

Quote:
For anyone with a BMW MINI you might wish to signup to my
BMW-MINI-COOPER (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com group as It is now quite busy, Real
Mini owners go to minilist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com....

I recall owners of Herbie VW Beetles call the nw ones "Big Golfs"

It is a shame the Mini heritage of the 1950s -1990s didn't make it over
the pond as the whole slanging match would be quite calm now.... for a
modern 21st century car it isn't bad and it has some of Rover Minis
saving graces, occasional unpredicatble mechanical failure and a
history of recalls, however to fix a 1975 mini you neede to be a
blacksmith , to fix a 2005 one you need to be a Microsoft Certified
Engineer

No noe can deny the Mini history has continued into the 2000's with a
unique car but at the same time the owners of the new one can't deny
the legacy ofthe old car made it the business proposition the BMW asset
strippers wanted....

Rover parts are still plentiful having been takenover by Caterpillar

FB
President of minilist and bmw-mini-cooper yahoogroups
& co-founder of mini-list (AT) autox (DOT) team.net
Webmaster http://www.ime.org.uk/


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Taffy
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-06-2005 , 11:40 AM




"John Fatbloke Bullas" <john.bullas (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Where is IMM2007 being held? I didn't make it to Spain so don't know

Since COO is still in refit it might not make it to Poland!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnbullas/sets/666400/

For anyone with a BMW MINI you might wish to signup to my
BMW-MINI-COOPER (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com group as It is now quite busy, Real
Mini owners go to minilist (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com....

I recall owners of Herbie VW Beetles call the nw ones "Big Golfs"

It is a shame the Mini heritage of the 1950s -1990s didn't make it over
the pond as the whole slanging match would be quite calm now.... for a
modern 21st century car it isn't bad and it has some of Rover Minis
saving graces, occasional unpredicatble mechanical failure and a
history of recalls, however to fix a 1975 mini you neede to be a
blacksmith , to fix a 2005 one you need to be a Microsoft Certified
Engineer

No noe can deny the Mini history has continued into the 2000's with a
unique car but at the same time the owners of the new one can't deny
the legacy ofthe old car made it the business proposition the BMW asset
strippers wanted....

Rover parts are still plentiful having been takenover by Caterpillar

FB
President of minilist and bmw-mini-cooper yahoogroups
& co-founder of mini-list (AT) autox (DOT) team.net
Webmaster http://www.ime.org.uk/
I'm surprised John, I thought you were opposed to the BINI?

Taffy

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erik fishead
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-06-2005 , 07:09 PM



Quote:
FB
President of minilist and bmw-mini-cooper yahoogroups
& co-founder of mini-list (AT) autox (DOT) team.net
Webmaster http://www.ime.org.uk/

I'm surprised John, I thought you were opposed to the BINI?
I think more opposed to the way BMW have marketed their version of the brand
since their garage sale.

It's a pity in some ways that BL/ARG/Rover didn't do the same for the cars
we discuss in this group.

erik.




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Taffy
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-07-2005 , 08:38 AM




"erik fishead" <erikfishead (AT) oddfellow (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
FB
President of minilist and bmw-mini-cooper yahoogroups
& co-founder of mini-list (AT) autox (DOT) team.net
Webmaster http://www.ime.org.uk/

I'm surprised John, I thought you were opposed to the BINI?

I think more opposed to the way BMW have marketed their version of the
brand
since their garage sale.

It's a pity in some ways that BL/ARG/Rover didn't do the same for the cars
we discuss in this group.

erik.


True, but we never had it so good, for so long?

Taffy




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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-07-2005 , 12:02 PM




"Taffy" <mini.mad (AT) rhondda (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
"erik fishead" <erikfishead (AT) oddfellow (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:VCqlf.111272$tM5.77305 (AT) fe05 (DOT) news.easynews.com...
FB
President of minilist and bmw-mini-cooper yahoogroups
& co-founder of mini-list (AT) autox (DOT) team.net
Webmaster http://www.ime.org.uk/

I'm surprised John, I thought you were opposed to the BINI?

I think more opposed to the way BMW have marketed their version of the
brand
since their garage sale.

It's a pity in some ways that BL/ARG/Rover didn't do the same for the
cars
we discuss in this group.

erik.


True, but we never had it so good, for so long?

Taffy


Can anybody imagine these BMW abortions around in 40 years time?

K





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erik fishead
 
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Default Re: IMM 2007? - 12-07-2005 , 02:57 PM



Quote:
Can anybody imagine these BMW abortions around in 40 years time?
Certainly not still being made.

Issigonis didn't want the original to go into the eighties. Could he have
imagined them around now?

erik.




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