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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 02:45 PM






Steve68s wrote:
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read the group charter & take your mate tatiele ( aka bad apple & bossy
tech ) with you, just because a dog gets born in a stable don't make it a
horse :-)

Steve.

"Madmax" <madmaxx (AT) nvbell (DOT) net> wrote in message
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The BMW thing is not a
Mini.


Wrong.....BMW now owns the name "Mini". Whether you like the car or not,
it is the "only" current Mini being manufactured. That makes this the
correct news group. As the name states alt.autos.mini....



What charter? Lets see it. Ya gotta realize this is a public,
alt.newsgroup. Free for all on the internet. So, if your gonna have a
general name, like alt.mini its gonna attract all mini owners. You also
really shouldn't compair my BMW mini to a dog and my classic(which isn't
running) to a horse.

Mark


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mwalsh@smad.com
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 03:00 PM







Quote:
What charter? Lets see it.
""THE CHARTER of the NEWSGROUP

The newsgroup <alt.autos.mini> is reserved for those who love, drive,
admire, repair, rebuild, customize and compete in Austin, Morris, BMC,
BMH,
Rover and Innocenti Minis, Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's, Mokes, Riley
Elfs,
Wolseley Hornets, and variants and Mini-based kit cars and specials.

The newsgroup for non-Mini microcars is <alt.autos.microcars>. Both of
these
newsgroups and <alt.autos.fiat> were created by Rocky Frisco as a
service to
the worldwide motoring community.

A reasonable amount of mild profanity is allowed but not encouraged. No

flames or personal attacks will be countenanced. Such will be
vigorously
reported to the originating ISP.

Many newsgroups are becoming cesspools of disrespect, flamewars and
catfights. Those who support and utilize this newsgroup request that
all
such matters be dealt with in private email rather than clog up the
group
with offtopic messages and unpleasantness.

While handles are allowed, it is strongly suggested that those who
would
like to take part in the newsgroup use a valid email address rather
than an
alias or forged address, since accountability tends to support
responsibility and polite conversation, while anonymity does not. The
use of
a spambotproof address is fine as long as the others in the group can
easily
figure out the real address.

The use of anonymous remailers to disguise a message's true source will
not
be condoned in the newsgroup.

Advertising is allowed as long as it is directly Mini-related, whether
it
originates with an individual with spares for sale or a large
corporation
with Mini-related products or services. Spamming the newsgroup with
multiple
ads or even daily repeating identical ads is not allowed, nor are ads
that
are addressed to multiple newsgroups.

Questions can be directed to: r... (AT) rocky-frisco (DOT) com

Happy Mini-ing!!! ""



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Madmax
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 04:09 PM



mwalsh (AT) smad (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
What charter? Lets see it.


""THE CHARTER of the NEWSGROUP

The newsgroup <alt.autos.mini> is reserved for those who love, drive,
admire, repair, rebuild, customize and compete in Austin, Morris, BMC,
BMH,
Rover and Innocenti Minis, Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's, Mokes, Riley
Elfs,
Wolseley Hornets, and variants and Mini-based kit cars and specials.

The newsgroup for non-Mini microcars is <alt.autos.microcars>. Both of
these
newsgroups and <alt.autos.fiat> were created by Rocky Frisco as a
service to
the worldwide motoring community.

A reasonable amount of mild profanity is allowed but not encouraged. No

flames or personal attacks will be countenanced. Such will be
vigorously
reported to the originating ISP.

Many newsgroups are becoming cesspools of disrespect, flamewars and
catfights. Those who support and utilize this newsgroup request that
all
such matters be dealt with in private email rather than clog up the
group
with offtopic messages and unpleasantness.

While handles are allowed, it is strongly suggested that those who
would
like to take part in the newsgroup use a valid email address rather
than an
alias or forged address, since accountability tends to support
responsibility and polite conversation, while anonymity does not. The
use of
a spambotproof address is fine as long as the others in the group can
easily
figure out the real address.

The use of anonymous remailers to disguise a message's true source will
not
be condoned in the newsgroup.

Advertising is allowed as long as it is directly Mini-related, whether
it
originates with an individual with spares for sale or a large
corporation
with Mini-related products or services. Spamming the newsgroup with
multiple
ads or even daily repeating identical ads is not allowed, nor are ads
that
are addressed to multiple newsgroups.

Questions can be directed to: r... (AT) rocky-frisco (DOT) com

Happy Mini-ing!!! ""

Well there you have it, Mini Cooper and Mini Cooper S, are included in
the charter.

Happy Mini-ing to you too!
Mark


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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 04:15 PM




"Madmax" <madmaxx (AT) nvbell (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
mwalsh (AT) smad (DOT) com wrote:

What charter? Lets see it.


""THE CHARTER of the NEWSGROUP

The newsgroup <alt.autos.mini> is reserved for those who love, drive,
admire, repair, rebuild, customize and compete in Austin, Morris, BMC,
BMH,
Rover and Innocenti Minis, Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's, Mokes, Riley
Elfs,
Wolseley Hornets, and variants and Mini-based kit cars and specials.

The newsgroup for non-Mini microcars is <alt.autos.microcars>. Both of
these
newsgroups and <alt.autos.fiat> were created by Rocky Frisco as a
service to
the worldwide motoring community.

A reasonable amount of mild profanity is allowed but not encouraged. No

flames or personal attacks will be countenanced. Such will be
vigorously
reported to the originating ISP.

Many newsgroups are becoming cesspools of disrespect, flamewars and
catfights. Those who support and utilize this newsgroup request that
all
such matters be dealt with in private email rather than clog up the
group
with offtopic messages and unpleasantness.

While handles are allowed, it is strongly suggested that those who
would
like to take part in the newsgroup use a valid email address rather
than an
alias or forged address, since accountability tends to support
responsibility and polite conversation, while anonymity does not. The
use of
a spambotproof address is fine as long as the others in the group can
easily
figure out the real address.

The use of anonymous remailers to disguise a message's true source will
not
be condoned in the newsgroup.

Advertising is allowed as long as it is directly Mini-related, whether
it
originates with an individual with spares for sale or a large
corporation
with Mini-related products or services. Spamming the newsgroup with
multiple
ads or even daily repeating identical ads is not allowed, nor are ads
that
are addressed to multiple newsgroups.

Questions can be directed to: r... (AT) rocky-frisco (DOT) com

Happy Mini-ing!!! ""

Well there you have it, Mini Cooper and Mini Cooper S, are included in
the charter.

Happy Mini-ing to you too!
Mark
not another BMW wanker!!





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mwalsh@smad.com
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 05:43 PM



Nope, only included in the context of Austin, Morris, BMC, BMH, Rover
and Innocenti. Not B.M.W. Though it might make one wonder if Authi
owners would be similarly left out in the cold.


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BigRed
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 07:25 PM



mwalsh (AT) smad (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
Nope, only included in the context of Austin, Morris, BMC, BMH, Rover
and Innocenti. Not B.M.W. Though it might make one wonder if Authi
owners would be similarly left out in the cold.

Sorry, read it again, it includes Mini Cooper S. Thats the BMW
supercharged version.


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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 07:31 PM



Quote:
Sorry, read it again, it includes Mini Cooper S. Thats the BMW supercharged version.
Errm, no, it's not.



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Tatiele
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 09:18 PM



A good suggestion but a fruitless one in any case.

"Steve68s" <steve68(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote

Quote:
read the group charter & take your mate tatiele ( aka bad apple & bossy
tech ) with you, just because a dog gets born in a stable don't make it a
horse :-)

Steve.

"Madmax" <madmaxx (AT) nvbell (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:AvEjf.21330$BZ5.2224 (AT) newssvr13 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...
The BMW thing is not a
Mini.


Wrong.....BMW now owns the name "Mini". Whether you like the car or not,
it is the "only" current Mini being manufactured. That makes this the
correct news group. As the name states alt.autos.mini....





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Tatiele
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-01-2005 , 09:26 PM



"<alt.autos.mini> is reserved for those who love, drive, admire, repair,
rebuild, customize and compete in Austin, Morris, BMC, BMH, Rover and
Innocenti Minis, Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's, Mokes, Riley Elfs, Wolseley
Hornets, and variants and Mini-based kit cars and specials"

Okay this is a good start, we asked for the charter and it was provided.

Now let's dissect it.

"Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's"

As I suspected it does not preclude BMW Mini. I assuem also that when the
forum was organized there was lack of foresight in what may happen in the
future.

So what needs to happen IMO along with the proposed name change is that the
charter be ammended to specifically exclude BMW products.

As a good will gesture I will waive any further comments on this subject but
instead focus on rantings about me Moke which appears to be specifically
welcomed (so please be a darling and stop wishfully hoping that I disappear,
not going to happen).

<mwalsh (AT) smad (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
What charter? Lets see it.

""THE CHARTER of the NEWSGROUP

The newsgroup <alt.autos.mini> is reserved for those who love, drive,
admire, repair, rebuild, customize and compete in Austin, Morris, BMC,
BMH,
Rover and Innocenti Minis, Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's, Mokes, Riley
Elfs,
Wolseley Hornets, and variants and Mini-based kit cars and specials.

The newsgroup for non-Mini microcars is <alt.autos.microcars>. Both of
these
newsgroups and <alt.autos.fiat> were created by Rocky Frisco as a
service to
the worldwide motoring community.

A reasonable amount of mild profanity is allowed but not encouraged. No

flames or personal attacks will be countenanced. Such will be
vigorously
reported to the originating ISP.

Many newsgroups are becoming cesspools of disrespect, flamewars and
catfights. Those who support and utilize this newsgroup request that
all
such matters be dealt with in private email rather than clog up the
group
with offtopic messages and unpleasantness.

While handles are allowed, it is strongly suggested that those who
would
like to take part in the newsgroup use a valid email address rather
than an
alias or forged address, since accountability tends to support
responsibility and polite conversation, while anonymity does not. The
use of
a spambotproof address is fine as long as the others in the group can
easily
figure out the real address.

The use of anonymous remailers to disguise a message's true source will
not
be condoned in the newsgroup.

Advertising is allowed as long as it is directly Mini-related, whether
it
originates with an individual with spares for sale or a large
corporation
with Mini-related products or services. Spamming the newsgroup with
multiple
ads or even daily repeating identical ads is not allowed, nor are ads
that
are addressed to multiple newsgroups.

Questions can be directed to: r... (AT) rocky-frisco (DOT) com

Happy Mini-ing!!! ""




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David Betts
 
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Default Re: Rename of his newsgroup - 12-02-2005 , 02:51 AM



On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:09:53 GMT, Madmax <madmaxx (AT) nvbell (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
mwalsh (AT) smad (DOT) com wrote:

What charter? Lets see it.


""THE CHARTER of the NEWSGROUP

The newsgroup <alt.autos.mini> is reserved for those who love, drive,
admire, repair, rebuild, customize and compete in Austin, Morris, BMC,
BMH,
Rover and Innocenti Minis, Mini Coopers, Mini Cooper S's, Mokes, Riley
Elfs,
Wolseley Hornets, and variants and Mini-based kit cars and specials.

Well there you have it, Mini Cooper and Mini Cooper S, are included in
the charter.
Yes, as long as they were built by Austin, Morris, BMC, BMH, Rover or
Innocenti. Don't see anything there about BMW. Unless you have serious
probless with comprehension it is quite clear that the only Minis
catered for by this newsgroup are the Issigonis original and its
derivates.

End of story.

Regards, David Betts
davidb (AT) minilist (DOT) org
The Mini Gallery:
http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?m=64635537103&n=1366070334


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