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Default seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 07:53 AM






First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance



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Default Re: seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 01:03 PM






rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where British
designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where never fitted
in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is quite a popular
conversion, the real, original classic mini should not be confused with
other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing a sheep to a lama, the
only thing in common is the are covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was true
or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance





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Default Re: seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 04:24 PM



They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the corner,
they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both sanctioned by the
number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote

Quote:
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is quite a
popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should not be confused
with other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing a sheep to a
lama, the only thing in common is the are covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand
mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was true
or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance







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Default Re: seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 05:14 PM



Yep, true, both have won monte carlo rallies too I guess, both are proven
rally cars & both are 10 foot long, I may be wrong.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote

Quote:
They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the corner,
they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both sanctioned by
the number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed0472$0$357$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is quite
a popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should not be
confused with other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing a
sheep to a lama, the only thing in common is the are covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand
mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by
BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was
true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance









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Steve68s
 
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Default Re: seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 05:43 PM



Aint life a bitch, you get the feeling someone has pissed in you cornflakes?
mines 31 years old, I realy wonder how many bmw binis will be on the road in
31 years time................

Steve.


31 years old;

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5201/mini15bb.jpg

no rust at 31:


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3671/mini27fe.jpg



"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote

Quote:
Yep, true, both have won monte carlo rallies too I guess, both are proven
rally cars & both are 10 foot long, I may be wrong.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote in message
news:8saHe.8358$DJ5.7076 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) ..
They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the
corner, they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both
sanctioned by the number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed0472$0$357$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is quite
a popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should not be
confused with other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing a
sheep to a lama, the only thing in common is the are covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand
mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by
BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was
true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance











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OsiTech.Net
 
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Default Re: seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 09:07 PM



When was the last time the MCR was run?

The MINI is winning it's own share of races and earning accolades.

The BINI is also a proven rally winner. We all know that the BINI is not 10
foot but there are other Mini variants that I am sure are shorter/longer
than 10 foot.

I'll measure up my 1967 Austin Mini Moke and report back
http://austinmini.ositech.net


"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote

Quote:
Yep, true, both have won monte carlo rallies too I guess, both are proven
rally cars & both are 10 foot long, I may be wrong.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote in message
news:8saHe.8358$DJ5.7076 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) ..
They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the
corner, they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both
sanctioned by the number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed0472$0$357$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is quite
a popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should not be
confused with other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing a
sheep to a lama, the only thing in common is the are covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand
mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by
BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was
true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance











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OsiTech.Net
 
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Default Re: seeking a mini - 07-31-2005 , 09:15 PM



My current Moke is 38 years old and my MK1 is 44 and both are in Southern
California with no rust. What's your point?

Sorry I am not one for breakfasts so no cereals for me. Give me a hearth
heart clogging Nigerian lunch and I will be okay for the day.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote

Quote:
Aint life a bitch, you get the feeling someone has pissed in you
cornflakes? mines 31 years old, I realy wonder how many bmw binis will be
on the road in 31 years time................

Steve.


31 years old;

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5201/mini15bb.jpg

no rust at 31:


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3671/mini27fe.jpg



"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed3f2d$0$376$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
Yep, true, both have won monte carlo rallies too I guess, both are proven
rally cars & both are 10 foot long, I may be wrong.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote in message
news:8saHe.8358$DJ5.7076 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) ..
They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the
corner, they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both
sanctioned by the number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed0472$0$357$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is
quite a popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should not
be confused with other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing a
sheep to a lama, the only thing in common is the are covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand
mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by
BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was
true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance













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Steve68s
 
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Default Re: seeking a mini - 08-01-2005 , 05:18 AM



When a bini makes a reputation like the origional one did I will conced I am
wrong, I am not saying the classic one is a better, although in its time it
was, take 1965 for example with 14 outright rally wins in international
rallys including the Monte Carlo, the new bini cooper was designed as a
marketing ploy to get people to buy it on the laurels of its predecesor, the
origional mini cooper was designed to go motor racing, do you know why the
mini was called mini? quote: "miniture, small of its kind" somthing the size
of a Fiat Punto or Ford Fiesta is not mini what ever you or anyone else
thinks :-) the new car is not bad its just not mini, a more appropriate name
would be Maxi or Allegro, its easier for the untrained eye to see what I
mean if you park a bini next to a mini, they are diffrent sizes.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote

Quote:
My current Moke is 38 years old and my MK1 is 44 and both are in Southern
California with no rust. What's your point?

Sorry I am not one for breakfasts so no cereals for me. Give me a hearth
heart clogging Nigerian lunch and I will be okay for the day.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed45fd$0$385$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
Aint life a bitch, you get the feeling someone has pissed in you
cornflakes? mines 31 years old, I realy wonder how many bmw binis will be
on the road in 31 years time................

Steve.


31 years old;

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5201/mini15bb.jpg

no rust at 31:


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3671/mini27fe.jpg



"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed3f2d$0$376$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
Yep, true, both have won monte carlo rallies too I guess, both are
proven rally cars & both are 10 foot long, I may be wrong.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote in message
news:8saHe.8358$DJ5.7076 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) ..
They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the
corner, they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both
sanctioned by the number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed0472$0$357$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is
quite a popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should not
be confused with other cars bearing the same name, its like comparing
a sheep to a lama, the only thing in common is the are covered in
wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second hand
mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built by
BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was
true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance















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Default Re: seeking a mini - 08-01-2005 , 08:30 AM



OsiTech.Net wrote:
Quote:
When was the last time the MCR was run?
The historic MCR runs every year and has many Minis competing every year.


Quote:
The BINI is also a proven rally winner.
Please let us know what world class rally a BMW MINI has won ?


We all know that the BINI is not 10
Quote:
foot but there are other Mini variants that I am sure are shorter/longer
than 10 foot.
None of them weigh more than 1 ton!


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Default Re: seeking a mini - 08-01-2005 , 10:22 AM



There were cars of the same era that made Minis look like a giant, the
Messerschmitt (sp) and others.

In todays day and age the MINI is still a very small car. Maybe it's a US
thing but the MINI is very small compared to my Ford Expedition SUV, pickup
trucks, etc

But you are right it is easier for the untrained eye to see that the BINI is
bigger than say a Chevy Metro.

It's not important to me to label you as wrong or right, I just will not
stand for vile hatred of BINIS (I don't own one by the way - I own
classics). I am hoping someone is sticking up for our classics when they are
called rusty little burgers.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote

Quote:
When a bini makes a reputation like the origional one did I will conced I
am wrong, I am not saying the classic one is a better, although in its
time it was, take 1965 for example with 14 outright rally wins in
international rallys including the Monte Carlo, the new bini cooper was
designed as a marketing ploy to get people to buy it on the laurels of its
predecesor, the origional mini cooper was designed to go motor racing, do
you know why the mini was called mini? quote: "miniture, small of its
kind" somthing the size of a Fiat Punto or Ford Fiesta is not mini what
ever you or anyone else thinks :-) the new car is not bad its just not
mini, a more appropriate name would be Maxi or Allegro, its easier for the
untrained eye to see what I mean if you park a bini next to a mini, they
are diffrent sizes.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote in message
news:BIeHe.14041$W%5.7511 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) ..
My current Moke is 38 years old and my MK1 is 44 and both are in Southern
California with no rust. What's your point?

Sorry I am not one for breakfasts so no cereals for me. Give me a hearth
heart clogging Nigerian lunch and I will be okay for the day.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed45fd$0$385$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
Aint life a bitch, you get the feeling someone has pissed in you
cornflakes? mines 31 years old, I realy wonder how many bmw binis will
be on the road in 31 years time................

Steve.


31 years old;

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5201/mini15bb.jpg

no rust at 31:


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3671/mini27fe.jpg



"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed3f2d$0$376$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
Yep, true, both have won monte carlo rallies too I guess, both are
proven rally cars & both are 10 foot long, I may be wrong.

Steve.


"OsiTech.Net" <Tech (AT) OsiTech (DOT) Net> wrote in message
news:8saHe.8358$DJ5.7076 (AT) trnddc07 (DOT) ..
They are both front wheel drives, they both have wheels out at the
corner, they were both designed by Austin/Rover/BMC, they are both
sanctioned by the number one racing family in UK = John Cooper Works.

"Steve68s" <steve68s(remove)@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:42ed0472$0$357$cc9e4d1f (AT) news (DOT) dial.pipex.com...
rust is the big problem, check it thoroughly, all the engines where
British designed A series & A+, BMW engines or Japanese engines where
never fitted in real minis as standard although the Honda V tec is
quite a popular conversion, the real, original classic mini should
not be confused with other cars bearing the same name, its like
comparing a sheep to a lama, the only thing in common is the are
covered in wool,

Steve.

"thor" <thor (AT) antispam (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:42ece8af$1$3147$8fcfb975 (AT) news (DOT) wanadoo.fr...
First, could anybody give me some clues to determine if a second
hand mini
is worth to be bought ?
Especially what are the weak points to look at ?

Second, I've been told in the past that Mini engines weren't built
by BMW
because they were too big to fit under the bonnet.
Japanese or Korean engines were used instead. Don't know if this was
true or
not. Anybody knows ?

Thanks in advance

















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