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Any tips for getting rid of company car?
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Re: Any tips for getting rid of company car? -
11-24-2004
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I did agree in the contract to get a company car 'which may be a pool car until the end of its lease'. Does this mean I knew in advance that I was agreeing to drive a car not suitable for very long legged people and have We had this and it dragged on for about 12 mths. He had doctors letter |
declared the car unsuitable. HR still dragged their feet over changing
it. It's very common (IME) for otherwise totally reasonable companies
to get completly anal about cars.
Have a look here - www.drivingergonomics.com - their work is partly
funded by HSE.
Not sure of current law but if you've been with company less than 12mths
then not much you can do if they fire you?
Apart from your size, I would suggest that a Yaris is not 'fit for
purpose' if you're doing a high mileage. It's OK as a pool car for the
odd mainly local journey but not something to be bashing up & down
motorways in. The company has a duty of care towards you and will get
slaughtered (but you'd have to get slaughtered first). Make sure
someone dear to you is aware of the situation.
Don't know size of you're company but maybe you could get an assurance
that the next new person gets your car?
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Apart from your size, I would suggest that a Yaris is not 'fit for purpose' if you're doing a high mileage. It's OK as a pool car for the odd mainly local journey but not something to be bashing up & down motorways in. |
motorways'.
Face it, this is all fulled by his envy of longer term colleagues who
have flasher cars than him.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
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Apart from your size, I would suggest that a Yaris is not 'fit for purpose' if you're doing a high mileage. |
choose a Yaris for 20k miles per annum if I didn't need the space - one of
my engineers (40k/yr) took a 1.0 corsa, good for the company (>40mpg, cost
nowt to insure and run) good for the driver (low tax liability and a fully
expensed car - he even bought some big alloys for it). Did >100k in three
years.
It's about comfort and safety - if he can't safely drive it then it's a H&S
issue, if he's just whining 'cause it's a crap car then tough.
--
"Get a paper bag"
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TiM (TiM (AT) NOEMAIL (DOT) net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : If I left, it would be constructive dismissal. Which can then be proved as being unfair dismissal (they left me no options). I'd go through the grievance process first You're not on some 24-hr notice probation period? Which can be terminated for next-to-no-reason? One-week but I didn't notice that they could dismiss me based on physical prejudice and they'd be immune from breaking the law. Dear god... You need SUCH a dose of proportion, man. I'm beginning to be on their side, if you're like this in your dealings with them, too. They're beginning to wonder just what sort of a drama queen they've hired. |
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In message <1gnq5o5.me0lqr1ejbov5N%steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk>, SteveH steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> writes AstraVanMan <FuckOff (AT) WithThanks (DOT) com> wrote: Congratulations, your complaining and jealousy [1] has just pigeon-holed you as a whinging troublemaker and effectively ended your career. Stop moaning about stuff and direct your energies into doing the job rather than finding excuses to get rid of the car. [1] I mean, this is what it's all about, isn't it? - you feel inferior to your colleagues as your car isn't as flash as theirs. Easy tiger.......... ........or as the French would say, "Facile, tigre." I spend large parts of my time dealing with people like this. No time for them at all. They don't last long. I don't think you appreciate (or are even trying to appreciate) the very real difficulty of driving a vehicle that is too small for you. I am also 6'6", with long legs. I have driven a few cars that were too small, such as an old Corsa, and there are some vehicles that I couldn't drive at all, notably the old Beetle and the Luton-bodied Transit. Even a 3-series BMW gets uncomfortable after a couple of hours. Being cramped means not only strain on the muscles and joints, but the restricted amount of movement is a safety-related issue. I had two Alfasuds as company cars, and they were just about OK for an hour or three. -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po! |
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I'm a field worker hence 20,000 miles a year in this thing. 1650 miles/month. 80 miles/working day. |
Sadly the truth is I do 3 days driving a week, average of 130 miles a day or
3 hours. To me, given how close my knees are to the dash, if i had a head
on collision that is not acceptable. Small cars are for small people. Big
cars for big people. I'm not a small person.
I can't see how the company's tallest small car driver can be seen as being
a troublemaker.
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This is not exactly eight-hours-per-day behind the wheel territory. |
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Adrian <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: I'm a field worker hence 20,000 miles a year in this thing. 1650 miles/month. 80 miles/working day. This is not exactly eight-hours-per-day behind the wheel territory. Only just noticed his mileage. That's sod-all, I do more than that to a fixed place of work. -- Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # |
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I did agree in the contract to get a company car 'which may be a pool car until the end of its lease'. Does this mean I knew in advance that I was agreeing to drive a car not suitable for very long legged people and have We had this and it dragged on for about 12 mths. He had doctors letter etc. Eventually company got a specialist to look at him and car and he declared the car unsuitable. HR still dragged their feet over changing it. It's very common (IME) for otherwise totally reasonable companies to get completly anal about cars. Have a look here - www.drivingergonomics.com - their work is partly funded by HSE. Not sure of current law but if you've been with company less than 12mths then not much you can do if they fire you? Apart from your size, I would suggest that a Yaris is not 'fit for purpose' if you're doing a high mileage. It's OK as a pool car for the odd mainly local journey but not something to be bashing up & down motorways in. The company has a duty of care towards you and will get slaughtered (but you'd have to get slaughtered first). Make sure someone dear to you is aware of the situation. Don't know size of you're company but maybe you could get an assurance that the next new person gets your car? |
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Rory wrote: It's about comfort and safety - if he can't safely drive it then it's a H&S issue, if he's just whining 'cause it's a crap car then tough. |
because my knee hits the steering wheel, what would you class that as?
If I can get my left leg up by moving it to a sideways angle that causes
cramp and backache after 1.5 hours, what would you class that as?
If the Institute of Crash Safety refused to test the Civic because it did
not provide 'adequate protection for tall drivers in a crash' what would you
class that as?
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"TiM" <TiM (AT) NOEMAIL (DOT) net> wrote in message news:W3aod.20082$up1.6042 (AT) text (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... Hi all, I have had a company car for a month which I am really unhappy with. It's the 'pool' car which under my contract I agreed to drive until its lease expires and I can order my own. Does anyone here have any tips and tricks for getting out of that and having the company allow me to order my proper company car now? It is a Toyota Yaris. They have a 3 year lease which expires in 6 months. Thanks guys. Having thought about this, I'd like to reconsider my original post. "Rock" and "hard place" springs to mind given that you've signed the contract. That said, as a fleet manager, or your line manager, one has a responsibility for health and safety. Quite how far this goes depends on the company - do they provide you with a hands free kit for a mobile or insist that you don't use a hand held 'phone whilst driving? If you get a doctor to say that the car is unsuitable, you then need to ensure that the replacement is suitable. From a drivers' perspective, the Yaris is amongst a tightly packed group of cars. Simply changing a Yaris for a larger car may not be more suitable. If you set about this the wrong way your fleet manager could press the above point. If you're sacked because of the car, better out than in, I'd not want a company to be like this with me over something so small (yes, I know it's not small to you but to a business, the choice of employee vehicle within certain parameters is usually not material). -- The DervMan www.dervman.com |
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