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Re: Anyone got a clio cup? -
12-22-2003
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"Tim S Kemp" <news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:tmadnZ96j5fl1nqiSa8jmw (AT) karoo (DOT) co.uk... I'd be more tempted to pay off the finance and buy an absolute minter of a 205 GTi 1.9 for a couple of grand. Yes, but you have a penchant for dangerous handling unreliable cars with atrocious build quality... The 205's 1.9 litre donk is hardly stressed, though. |
recently.
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And it's not dangerous, it's merely frisky! |
from people brought up on a diet of over-safe understeery crap, IMHO.
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Build quality? Mumble mumble mumble . . . |
dash made a huge difference.
Don't often see a rotten one, either.
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"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:1g6dvfq.s627r5ornfqzN%steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk... DervMan <dervman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Also I have got a couple of insurance quotes for the these two and the cup comes in at £1000 and the 206 at £1200. Is this reasonable (23 year old male 2 years ncb and a bump in last couple of years). So you're wanting a small, relatively powerful car, with no ABS . . . not for track day use? The 206 GTi 180 has a much better specification, to be fair yes it's a bit dearer, but from the sounds of it, you'd probably get better use of the specification . . . /cue the comments about ABS blunting the driving experience, so on and so forth/ I'd be more tempted to pay off the finance and buy an absolute minter of a 205 GTi 1.9 for a couple of grand. Absolutely! Although I'm sure the 206 GTi 180 is an evolution of the "ordinary" 206 GTi, and the 205 is rather more . . . erm . . . well what's the word? "Serious" isn't quite what I mean. |
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Put it this way, of the 206s, Clio and 205, only one mutters, "pussy!" if you don't tackle a series of bends at 100%.  -- The DervMan www.dervman.com |
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DervMan <dervman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Tim S Kemp" <news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:tmadnZ96j5fl1nqiSa8jmw (AT) karoo (DOT) co.uk... I'd be more tempted to pay off the finance and buy an absolute minter of a 205 GTi 1.9 for a couple of grand. Yes, but you have a penchant for dangerous handling unreliable cars with atrocious build quality... The 205's 1.9 litre donk is hardly stressed, though. Indeed. I don't recall seeing / hearing one with a knackered lump recently. |
knackered, but this was because it had a stage two (iforgetthecompany) head
conversion. It was a bit cammy, but it flew (and this individual car was
due to get the 1.6 'box, so make the in-gear acceleraton even better).
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And it's not dangerous, it's merely frisky! You just have to know how to handle it. The 'dangerous' reputation came from people brought up on a diet of over-safe understeery crap, IMHO. |
positively encourage you to try harder and faster. They whisper
encouragement, they bellow for you to tackle it quicker, indeed they're very
talkative cars . . . except when you do screw up and overcook it, they
usually look the other way and say, "it wasn't me!"
Great fun, a challenge, and sadly too many kiddies stuffed them.Quote:
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Build quality? Mumble mumble mumble . . . The very last GTis were pretty good, IMHO. Nice trim, and the revised dash made a huge difference. |
this isn't a GTi, it was a special 1.9 donk mated to an automatic. Nice
interior, but a bit expensive. It was advertised as an automatic GTi.
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Don't often see a rotten one, either. |
crashed and stuffed by uncaring owners.
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The very last GTis were pretty good, IMHO. Nice trim, and the revised dash made a huge difference. The K-plater "Gentry" model I looked at was in reasonable nick - although this isn't a GTi, it was a special 1.9 donk mated to an automatic. Nice interior, but a bit expensive. It was advertised as an automatic GTi. |
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Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800
VW Golf GL Cabrio (carb broken) - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 33 1.7ie
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
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"DervMan" <dervman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bs7gs8$ac5lr$1 (AT) ID-136275 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de... "SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:1g6dvfq.s627r5ornfqzN%steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk... DervMan <dervman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Also I have got a couple of insurance quotes for the these two and the cup comes in at £1000 and the 206 at £1200. Is this reasonable (23 year old male 2 years ncb and a bump in last couple of years). So you're wanting a small, relatively powerful car, with no ABS . . .. not for track day use? The 206 GTi 180 has a much better specification, to be fair yes it's a bit dearer, but from the sounds of it, you'd probably get better use of the specification . . . /cue the comments about ABS blunting the driving experience, so on and so forth/ I'd be more tempted to pay off the finance and buy an absolute minter of a 205 GTi 1.9 for a couple of grand. Absolutely! Although I'm sure the 206 GTi 180 is an evolution of the "ordinary" 206 GTi, and the 205 is rather more . . . erm . . . well what's the word? "Serious" isn't quite what I mean. Hardcore is the word your looking for Dervy. |
Yes! Hardcore!
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Absolutely! Although I'm sure the 206 GTi 180 is an evolution of the "ordinary" 206 GTi, and the 205 is rather more . . . erm . . . well what's the word? "Serious" isn't quite what I mean. Hardcore is the word your looking for Dervy. Yes! Hardcore! |
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Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800
VW Golf GL Cabrio (carb broken) - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 33 1.7ie
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
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"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:1g6dwvm.xy2qc619devslN%steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk... DervMan <dervman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Tim S Kemp" <news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:tmadnZ96j5fl1nqiSa8jmw (AT) karoo (DOT) co.uk... I'd be more tempted to pay off the finance and buy an absolute minter of a 205 GTi 1.9 for a couple of grand. Yes, but you have a penchant for dangerous handling unreliable cars with atrocious build quality... The 205's 1.9 litre donk is hardly stressed, though. Indeed. I don't recall seeing / hearing one with a knackered lump recently. The last one I had a ride in (the owner wouldn't let Dervy drive it) sounded knackered, but this was because it had a stage two (iforgetthecompany) head conversion. It was a bit cammy, but it flew (and this individual car was due to get the 1.6 'box, so make the in-gear acceleraton even better). And it's not dangerous, it's merely frisky! You just have to know how to handle it. The 'dangerous' reputation came from people brought up on a diet of over-safe understeery crap, IMHO. They can be a bit intimidating, though. Unlike most other cars, they positively encourage you to try harder and faster. They whisper encouragement, they bellow for you to tackle it quicker, indeed they're very talkative cars . . . except when you do screw up and overcook it, they usually look the other way and say, "it wasn't me!" Great fun, a challenge, and sadly too many kiddies stuffed them.Build quality? Mumble mumble mumble . . . The very last GTis were pretty good, IMHO. Nice trim, and the revised dash made a huge difference. The K-plater "Gentry" model I looked at was in reasonable nick - although this isn't a GTi, it was a special 1.9 donk mated to an automatic. Nice interior, but a bit expensive. It was advertised as an automatic GTi. Don't often see a rotten one, either. No, this is probably because good ones are kept good, and bad ones are crashed and stuffed by uncaring owners. -- The DervMan www.dervman.com |
well(5 turbo, 19/Clio 16v, Williams....)
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