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Auto Door locking on a Mondeo
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Re: Auto Door locking on a Mondeo -
05-19-2005
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In article <d6i7hi$vvq$1 (AT) ucsnew1 (DOT) ncl.ac.uk>, mail (AT) markhewittDotCoDotUk (DOT) spammers.will.die says... "John Laird" <nospam (AT) laird-towers (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message news:b28p81phdtdoit1jpdh93qmh8eumoj0k08 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:58 GMT, DC <david (AT) blueyonder (DOT) com> wrote: I have noticed, but it's not in the driver's handbook, that if you unlock the car with the remote, but do not ope any doors, the car re-locks it's self after a short time. Strange! Perfectly sound security feature. It's easy enough to accidentally press the "unlock" button on your remote as you put your keys/remote back in your pocket/handbag/purse etc. Would you really want your car to be left unlocked as a result as you walk away ? I never like the idea of running with the doors locked. Sometimes I've stopped at traffic lights in rather dodgy areas and I've locked the doors but I've made sure to unlock them as soon as possible afterwards. For the simple reason that, $deity forbid should I have a crash, I want the emergency services to be able to get to me as quickly and as easily as posssible. That's what the Jaws of Life are for :- |
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- besides, I thought that locks were required to unlock on severe impact in any case, |
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just as doors are required to be designed so that on impact they don't deform into unopenable shapes. Cheers, |
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..are therefore absolutely convinced that everyone outside your car is desperately trying to get you, and that when you stop at traffic lights they will open the door and molest you before stealing your mobile phone, your kidneys and any small children you happen to be carrying. Tell that to my colleague who was carjacked in Manchester..... |
infrequently.
There is, of course, an argument for locking your doors when you are
driving through an area where you might expect there to be a risk, but it's
something you can do easily enough on the rare occasions that you need it -
having an automated system do it every time you drive suggests that the
risk is widespread.
The american market essentially demands the auto-doorlocking feature as a
necessity, i.e. they believe that they are at risk all the time.
I'm fairly sure that the penalties of living in a paranoid culture are
worse than the actualy crimes they are paranoid about.
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why would you want the doors to lock when the car drives off ? |
the car in the event of a crash, but of course, that doesn't cover
driving into rivers, being hit from some other direction that doesn't
set of the airbags, fire or any number of other alarming things.
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In message <b28p81phdtdoit1jpdh93qmh8eumoj0k08 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, John Laird nospam (AT) laird-towers (DOT) org.uk> writes On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:58 GMT, DC <david (AT) blueyonder (DOT) com> wrote: I have noticed, but it's not in the driver's handbook, that if you unlock the car with the remote, but do not ope any doors, the car re-locks it's self after a short time. Strange! Perfectly sound security feature. It's easy enough to accidentally press the "unlock" button on your remote as you put your keys/remote back in your pocket/handbag/purse etc. Would you really want your car to be left unlocked as a result as you walk away ? However... I stopped outside a supermarket and left my wife in the car. As I put the keys in my pocket, I accidentally locked the doors. So I unlocked them again, and went into the supermarket. 20 seconds later, the doors locked and deadlocked, and the alarm armed. SWMBO was not amused at being locked in a car with the alarm going off. |
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:39:34 +0100, Steve Walker <steve (AT) otolith (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote: However... I stopped outside a supermarket and left my wife in the car. As I put the keys in my pocket, I accidentally locked the doors. So I unlocked them again, and went into the supermarket. 20 seconds later, the doors locked and deadlocked, and the alarm armed. SWMBO was not amused at being locked in a car with the alarm going off. Where were her keys ? (Mine are *never* out of my pocket.) |
for it.
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She's not insured to drive that car, so she doesn't have a set of keys for it. |
damned useful it is, too.
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"John Laird" <nospam (AT) laird-towers (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message news:b28p81phdtdoit1jpdh93qmh8eumoj0k08 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:58 GMT, DC <david (AT) blueyonder (DOT) com> wrote: I have noticed, but it's not in the driver's handbook, that if you unlock the car with the remote, but do not ope any doors, the car re-locks it's self after a short time. Strange! Perfectly sound security feature. It's easy enough to accidentally press the "unlock" button on your remote as you put your keys/remote back in your pocket/handbag/purse etc. Would you really want your car to be left unlocked as a result as you walk away ? I never like the idea of running with the doors locked. Sometimes I've stopped at traffic lights in rather dodgy areas and I've locked the doors but I've made sure to unlock them as soon as possible afterwards. For the simple reason that, $deity forbid should I have a crash, I want the emergency services to be able to get to me as quickly and as easily as posssible. |
are less likely to fly open and part company than if they are unlocked. This
protects you a lot more as the doors help to tie the car's structure together
as well as keeping out bits of other cars / fenceposts / etc.
There is also the bonus that nobody can open the passenger door to nick yer
handbag, but that's a quite different thing, probably best to let them take the
stuff rather than smash the window - tip, don't leave things on display even
when yer in the car. Or have a wheel brace under the seat and the willingness
to brandish it before things get that far.
Risk of the door staying locked against the emergency services is fairly minor,
the security works in a way that tends to unlock in a severe shunt and anyway
the car deforms so the door quite possibly doesn't unlock anyway and needs
someone to take you out through the windscreen or pry open the door with a
crowbar, etc.
I'm under the impression that "lock on go" has a statistically beneficial
effect overall. Like, I'd enable it, if I had it. But I don't think I need to
retrofit it.
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In an accident with the door locked, they are less likely to fly open and part company than if they are unlocked. |
engaged has little to do with the way the latch works inside, it just
prevents the operating rod doing anything.
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Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."
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Apparently on date Thu, 19 May 2005 15:23:46 +0100, "Mark Hewitt" mail (AT) markhewittDotCoDotUk (DOT) spammers.will.die> said: "John Laird" <nospam (AT) laird-towers (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message news:b28p81phdtdoit1jpdh93qmh8eumoj0k08 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:58 GMT, DC <david (AT) blueyonder (DOT) com> wrote: I have noticed, but it's not in the driver's handbook, that if you unlock the car with the remote, but do not ope any doors, the car re-locks it's self after a short time. Strange! Perfectly sound security feature. It's easy enough to accidentally press the "unlock" button on your remote as you put your keys/remote back in your pocket/handbag/purse etc. Would you really want your car to be left unlocked as a result as you walk away ? I never like the idea of running with the doors locked. Sometimes I've stopped at traffic lights in rather dodgy areas and I've locked the doors but I've made sure to unlock them as soon as possible afterwards. For the simple reason that, $deity forbid should I have a crash, I want the emergency services to be able to get to me as quickly and as easily as posssible. There's a balance of risk involved. In an accident with the door locked, they are less likely to fly open and part company than if they are unlocked. This protects you a lot more as the doors help to tie the car's structure together as well as keeping out bits of other cars / fenceposts / etc. There is also the bonus that nobody can open the passenger door to nick yer handbag, but that's a quite different thing, probably best to let them take the stuff rather than smash the window - tip, don't leave things on display even when yer in the car. Or have a wheel brace under the seat and the willingness to brandish it before things get that far. Risk of the door staying locked against the emergency services is fairly minor, the security works in a way that tends to unlock in a severe shunt and anyway the car deforms so the door quite possibly doesn't unlock anyway and needs someone to take you out through the windscreen or pry open the door with a crowbar, etc. I'm under the impression that "lock on go" has a statistically beneficial effect overall. Like, I'd enable it, if I had it. But I don't think I need to retrofit it. |
pretty rare in the UK , car accidents aren't.
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In message <dvlp81li40q3pdlm0u8an9p4hsaqh8udrf (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, John Laird nospam (AT) laird-towers (DOT) org.uk> writes On Thu, 19 May 2005 15:39:34 +0100, Steve Walker <steve (AT) otolith (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote: SWMBO was not amused at being locked in a car with the alarm going off. Where were her keys ? (Mine are *never* out of my pocket.) She's not insured to drive that car, so she doesn't have a set of keys for it. |
usually leave them with the keys and they can lock the doors for security.
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