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Default Re: British Cars of yesterday (comment) - 08-11-2009 , 01:00 PM






On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:21:14 +0100, "John" <Who90nospam (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com>
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Remember the crap cars we had to put up with - that started to rust in no
time? It makes me think that the industry was very arrogant not to come up
with a fix - it wouldn't have been rocket science. It may even have saved
some of the manufacturers from the onslaught of imports. In some cases firms
like Ziebart and Endrust made a quick killing.
Rust is not a problem now - so a fix was possible.


The problem wasn't British cars it was British roads. All cars last
much longer in countries that don't salt the roads.

Japanese MX5 imports are far more rust free than UK ones, for example.

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Default Re: British Cars of yesterday (comment) - 08-11-2009 , 01:28 PM






In article <4a81af35.38578390 (AT) news (DOT) virginmedia.com>,
Shaun <shaun.jameson.spam (AT) ntlwolrd (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Remember the crap cars we had to put up with - that started to rust in
no time? It makes me think that the industry was very arrogant not to
come up with a fix - it wouldn't have been rocket science. It may even
have saved some of the manufacturers from the onslaught of imports. In
some cases firms like Ziebart and Endrust made a quick killing. Rust
is not a problem now - so a fix was possible.


The problem wasn't British cars it was British roads. All cars last
much longer in countries that don't salt the roads.
That should have been easily proved since councils only salt roads when
frost is threatened. So North of Scotland cars would rust more than those
from Cornwall.

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Peter Hill
 
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Default Re: British Cars of yesterday (comment) - 08-11-2009 , 03:39 PM



On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:28:05 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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In article <4a81af35.38578390 (AT) news (DOT) virginmedia.com>,
Shaun <shaun.jameson.spam (AT) ntlwolrd (DOT) com> wrote:
Remember the crap cars we had to put up with - that started to rust in
no time? It makes me think that the industry was very arrogant not to
come up with a fix - it wouldn't have been rocket science. It may even
have saved some of the manufacturers from the onslaught of imports. In
some cases firms like Ziebart and Endrust made a quick killing. Rust
is not a problem now - so a fix was possible.


The problem wasn't British cars it was British roads. All cars last
much longer in countries that don't salt the roads.

That should have been easily proved since councils only salt roads when
frost is threatened. So North of Scotland cars would rust more than those
from Cornwall.
but no part of Cornwall is very far from the sea and most people live
on or go to the coast frequently. Sea salt air rots cars even better
than the few weeks of the year that roads are salted up North.
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Default Re: British Cars of yesterday (comment) - 08-12-2009 , 09:20 AM



"Peter Hill" <peter.usenet1 (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:28:05 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

In article <4a81af35.38578390 (AT) news (DOT) virginmedia.com>,
Shaun <shaun.jameson.spam (AT) ntlwolrd (DOT) com> wrote:
Remember the crap cars we had to put up with - that started to rust in
no time? It makes me think that the industry was very arrogant not to
come up with a fix - it wouldn't have been rocket science. It may even
have saved some of the manufacturers from the onslaught of imports. In
some cases firms like Ziebart and Endrust made a quick killing. Rust
is not a problem now - so a fix was possible.


The problem wasn't British cars it was British roads. All cars last
much longer in countries that don't salt the roads.

That should have been easily proved since councils only salt roads when
frost is threatened. So North of Scotland cars would rust more than those
from Cornwall.

but no part of Cornwall is very far from the sea and most people live
on or go to the coast frequently. Sea salt air rots cars even better
than the few weeks of the year that roads are salted up North.
Wrong, wrong and wrong IMHO. Even around Edinburgh, the roads are regularly
salted most of the winter months, so much so that they never really dry up
and remain salty, your wheels throw up all this damp salt which sticks
everywhere on the underside of your car. Unless you're actually being
splashed by the sea, I can't see how it could be worse than salted roads.

Z

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Default Re: British Cars of yesterday (comment) - 08-12-2009 , 09:48 AM



Zimmy wrote:
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"Peter Hill" <peter.usenet1 (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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but no part of Cornwall is very far from the sea and most people live
on or go to the coast frequently. Sea salt air rots cars even better
than the few weeks of the year that roads are salted up North.

Wrong, wrong and wrong IMHO. Even around Edinburgh, the roads are regularly
salted most of the winter months, so much so that they never really dry up
and remain salty, your wheels throw up all this damp salt which sticks
everywhere on the underside of your car. Unless you're actually being
splashed by the sea, I can't see how it could be worse than salted roads.
Totally agree. We're pretty close to the sea and often notice a film of
salt over the cars after a storm, but this is only on the upper surfaces
where it gets washed off easily. It's not from direct splashes, but from
salt spray that can carry for miles on the wind.
Salt from the roads that stays lodged around the underside is far more
damaging and less likely to be washed off.

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Default Re: British Cars of yesterday (comment) - 08-12-2009 , 12:51 PM



In article <7eg32sF2g8lmoU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
Willy Eckerslyke <oss108no_spam (AT) bangor (DOT) ac.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Zimmy wrote:
"Peter Hill" <peter.usenet1 (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7kl385tvs3ksj1q6n8b2r61k1o2qesq5tv (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...

but no part of Cornwall is very far from the sea and most people live
on or go to the coast frequently. Sea salt air rots cars even better
than the few weeks of the year that roads are salted up North.

Wrong, wrong and wrong IMHO. Even around Edinburgh, the roads are
regularly salted most of the winter months, so much so that they
never really dry up and remain salty, your wheels throw up all this
damp salt which sticks everywhere on the underside of your car.
Unless you're actually being splashed by the sea, I can't see how it
could be worse than salted roads.

Totally agree. We're pretty close to the sea and often notice a film of
salt over the cars after a storm, but this is only on the upper surfaces
where it gets washed off easily. It's not from direct splashes, but from
salt spray that can carry for miles on the wind.
Salt from the roads that stays lodged around the underside is far more
damaging and less likely to be washed off.
Yes - and Aberdeen, my home town was probably worse.
My father always had new cars from work and they were changed every 5
years or so. Ordinary ones like Morris Oxfords. And none had structural
rust in that time. Or indeed any visible anywhere.

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