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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 06:38 AM






In news:1hxl8zh.1rlfua0113e24aN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk,
Steve Firth <usenet-urcm (AT) malloc (DOT) co.uk> wittered on forthwith;
Quote:
Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

Zimmy wrote:
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xns99265A9368CE6adrianachapmanfreeis (AT) 204 (DOT) 153.245.131...
ThePunisher (thepunisher (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

http://www.psni.police.uk/index/depa...ng_development
_branch_(traffic_branch)/pg_roadpolicing_offencecodes.htm
50.13.102 Use Vehicle Not Fitted With Suitable And Sufficient
Springs

Citroens watch out!!!
Why would that be, then?

I think he is referring to the Citroens with hydropneumatic
suspension.

Z

Although nitrogen springs are still springs.

They don't meet the definition of "spring"

"noun 1 a a metal coil that can be stretched or compressed, and which
will return to its original shape when the pull or pressure is
released, especially one where this can be done at a controlled rate
so that it can be used to turn a mechanism, eg in a clock, watch,
etc; b a similar device that is designed to absorb shock waves, eg in
the shock absorbers of some motor vehicles, or to make seats, beds,
etc comfortable and bouncy. "
Kinda fucks up Leaf springs...


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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 06:46 AM






Pete M (pete.murray (AT) bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder (DOT) co.uk) gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying :

Quote:
Although nitrogen springs are still springs.

They don't meet the definition of "spring"

"noun 1 a a metal coil that can be stretched or compressed, and which
will return to its original shape when the pull or pressure is
released, especially one where this can be done at a controlled rate
so that it can be used to turn a mechanism, eg in a clock, watch,
etc; b a similar device that is designed to absorb shock waves, eg in
the shock absorbers of some motor vehicles, or to make seats, beds,
etc comfortable and bouncy. "

Kinda fucks up Leaf springs...
and torsion bars, if you view "stretched or compressed" as the criteria.

Oh, not to mention the various implementations of air suspension.


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Richard Polhill
 
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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 07:18 AM



Steve Firth wrote:
Quote:
Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

Zimmy wrote:
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:Xns99265A9368CE6adrianachapmanfreeis (AT) 204 (DOT) 153.245.131...
ThePunisher (thepunisher (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :
http://www.psni.police.uk/index/depa...ng_development
_branch_(traffic_branch)/pg_roadpolicing_offencecodes.htm
50.13.102 Use Vehicle Not Fitted With Suitable And Sufficient Springs
Citroens watch out!!!
Why would that be, then?
I think he is referring to the Citroens with hydropneumatic suspension.
Z
Although nitrogen springs are still springs.

They don't meet the definition of "spring"

"noun 1 a a metal coil that can be stretched or compressed, and which
will return to its original shape when the pull or pressure is released,
especially one where this can be done at a controlled rate so that it
can be used to turn a mechanism, eg in a clock, watch, etc; b a similar
device that is designed to absorb shock waves, eg in the shock absorbers
of some motor vehicles, or to make seats, beds, etc comfortable and
bouncy. "
So according to your dictionary, leaf springs are not springs, nor are
V-springs, cantilever springs, torsion springs, gas springs (like Citröen) or
rubber springs?

Odd, because the OED says:-

V. 22. An elastic contrivance or mechanical device, usually consisting of a
strip or plate of steel (or a number of these) suitably shaped or adjusted,
which, when compressed, bent, coiled, or otherwise forced out of its normal
shape, possesses the property of returning to it.
Springs vary greatly in form, size, and use, but are used chiefly for
imparting or communicating motion (either by gradual unwinding, as in the
spring of a clock or watch, or by sudden release), for regulating or
controlling movement, or for lessening or preventing concussion.
Cf. G. springfeder, Du. -veer, Da. -fjær, Sw. -fjäder.


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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 07:19 AM



Adrian wrote:
Quote:
Zimmy (x@y.z) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :

50.13.102 Use Vehicle Not Fitted With Suitable And Sufficient Springs

Citroens watch out!!!

Why would that be, then?

I think he is referring to the Citroens with hydropneumatic suspension.

I'm sure he is.

I'm still intrigued to know what's unsuitable or insufficient...
Go for a ride in a BMW M3...


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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 07:48 AM



Steve Firth wrote:
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Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

So according to your dictionary,

It's not "my" dictionary. It belongs to a Mr Chambers.

HTH.
Ah you're in argumentative mood this afternoon, Steve, goodo.

You chose to ignore the next part of that definition from Chambers. i'll
include the whole quote shall I?

"1 a a metal coil that can be stretched or compressed, and which will return
to its original shape when the pull or pressure is released, especially one
where this can be done at a controlled rate so that it can be used to turn a
mechanism, eg in a clock, watch, etc; b a similar device that is designed to
absorb shock waves, eg in the shock absorbers of some motor vehicles, or to
make seats, beds, etc comfortable and bouncy."



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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 08:32 AM



Steve Firth wrote:
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Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

You chose to ignore the next part of that definition from Chambers.

No I didn't.
So "a similar device that is designed to absorb shock waves, eg in the shock
absorbers of some motor vehicles" does not describe a nitrogen gas spring then?

It has to be said that the Chambers definition is rather weak, though.

Which is why I prefer the OED.

According to Chambers there were no springs on horse-drawn carriages nor about
50% of cars.


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Chris Whelan
 
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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 08:53 AM



Steve Firth wrote:

Quote:
Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

You chose to ignore the next part of that definition from Chambers.

No I didn't.

So "a similar device that is designed to absorb shock waves, eg in the
shock absorbers of some motor vehicles" does not describe a nitrogen gas
spring then?

In what way is a gas similar to a metal spring?
They both exhibit elastic properties?

Chris

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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 10:04 AM



Steve Firth wrote:

Quote:
Chris Whelan <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:

Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
Richard Polhill <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote:

You chose to ignore the next part of that definition from Chambers.

No I didn't.

So "a similar device that is designed to absorb shock waves, eg in the
shock absorbers of some motor vehicles" does not describe a nitrogen
gas spring then?

In what way is a gas similar to a metal spring?

They both exhibit elastic properties?

So does a ball of dough.
So in that respct the ball of dough is similar to a gas, and a metal spring.

Chris

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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 10:21 AM



Steve Firth <usenet-urcm (AT) malloc (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
In what way is a gas similar to a metal spring?

They both exhibit elastic properties?

So does a ball of dough.
Heh, I can see it now:

'Citroen update C6 with hydoughmatic suspension'
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Default Re: Offence code 400????? - 05-04-2007 , 10:27 AM



SteveH (steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Quote:
In what way is a gas similar to a metal spring?

They both exhibit elastic properties?

So does a ball of dough.
Strangely, I thought of the Mini's rubber cones at that point...

Quote:
Heh, I can see it now:

'Citroen update C6 with hydoughmatic suspension'
I like...


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