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Re: Oops? -
12-09-2003
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In article <br2cio$i1t$1$8302bc10 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk>, james (AT) james (DOT) com says... So basically what you are saying is that it is NEVER EVER safe to drive a fully laden truck on the roads? Not 100% no, just the same as its not 100% to drive a car. There's always the potential to jacknife or tip over if you have to make an aggressive enough emergency manouvre which 9/10 of the time is someone elses fault, ie usual car driver "must beat the lorry" tricks. |
behavior I have ever seen was from an articulated lorry.
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James
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In article <cCUlhtvFIYkV-pn2-UtoJyFOBKhxd@localhost>, ian.usenet (AT) talk21 (DOT) com says... On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:32:39 UTC, Ben Blaney <benblaney (AT) ukrm (DOT) net wrote: : Ian Johnston wrote: : : >On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:34:13 UTC, Conor <conor_turton (AT) hotmail (DOT) com : >wrote: : : >: Go learn what jacknifing is. : : >That's the after effect of an HGV driving too fast, isn't it? : : Almost exactly the opposite. What, you mean it happens when an HGV accelerates after driving too slowly? I learn something new every day! Excessive speed is not a factor in jacknifing. An articulated lorry has to be moving to jacknife. |
James
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Not as in excessive which you're implying. I once jacknifed years ago. I was doing 30 in a 40 limit. The road surface was greasy. I've also felt it start to go at sub 10 MPH speeds too when its been icy. Jacknifing occurs because the drive axle tyres lose grip under braking and the momentum of the trailer pushes against the front brakes. THe pivot point offers a release for that energy in the path of least resistance, i.e sideways because the drive axle tyres have insufficient grip. |
here, more useful than on the average shopping runabout.
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I've seen far worse than that from a lorry driver, the worst driving behavior I have ever seen was from an articulated lorry. |
Which proves what, exactly?
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"We stopped only for fuel"
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An articulated lorry has to be moving to jacknife. |
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Ben Blaney
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| An articulated lorry has to be moving to jacknife. |
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Conor
A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay.
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"Conor" <conor_turton (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1a3fe9605c2886089899bb (AT) news (DOT) claranews.com... In article <br2cio$i1t$1$8302bc10 (AT) news (DOT) demon.co.uk>, james (AT) james (DOT) com says... So basically what you are saying is that it is NEVER EVER safe to drive a fully laden truck on the roads? Not 100% no, just the same as its not 100% to drive a car. There's always the potential to jacknife or tip over if you have to make an aggressive enough emergency manouvre which 9/10 of the time is someone elses fault, ie usual car driver "must beat the lorry" tricks. I've seen far worse than that from a lorry driver, the worst driving behavior I have ever seen was from an articulated lorry. |
Sprinter jump 6 red lights not even bothering to slow down for them
because it was 4am. Shame there was actually other people on the road
at the time.
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Conor
A whack off a day keeps the Viagra at bay.
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I see you are still bleating on How do you know I work for an insurer? This is a fairly big clue... terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com Way too late to hide behind that feeble addy now, the Royal won't be best impressed with such ineptitude in bringing its once great name in to so much disrepute. Please excuse my snipping I'm a bit of a beginner at this, methinks I'm not the only one :-) In summary we have this guy who blew through a Red Light in poor road conditions and wanted reassurance his self confessed stupidity was OK, as he hadn't managed to observe the aforementioned traffic lights (or the Day-Glo camera) from 1/4 mile. read on... terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com said Yes, I don't speed. The road was saturated. WD replied wearily But couldn't stop ? Smacks of eyes shut or don't give a ... Or you must drive a bag of pooh then. WD had previously commented thus to evoke the above witty reply (oh sorry that's another post) TOO fast for the conditions then, or too busy looking in the garage at cars way beyond your ability (and my price range) some very to seriously good metalwork in there. terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com spluttered like it made any odds Honda? Hardly. I drive a BMW M3 Evolution with private plate R17 TJM. WD continued realising this may be an uphill battle Not just Honda (is a Honda dealer though) so we've established you can see the dealer logo that is in foot high letters ( + lit! ), (But not camera or anything important like the TLights though). A repmobile - an R reg, I suppose that could explain the poor brakes if it's very old and poorly maintained. terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com feebly said Far better than any poxy old Honda thank you very much. WD sighed and typed Honda are more reliable and not as common as beemers. terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com said in self damnation My speed was comparable with the other cars going in the same direction. Indeed, I was being overtaken. WD replied in quiet amazement OK, several more knobs about, was it a knobheads cruise that you couldn't keep up with then? and is it OK to jump light just because others do it? terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com said increasingly feebly Indeed, I was being overtaken. That's most unusual for me. WD thought Oh that's OK then - Not That's most unusual for me. What? Driving like a knob, or being slow but still running red lights - I mean if you are so quick you'd be across the light before it got to amber surely? terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com said in desperation. Scameras not a typo. Knobs to you too ;o) WD replied reasonably Scamera I consider a legitimate term for revenue raising 'speed camera' of whatever flavour (Gatso or Truvelo) not DICKHEAD recorders. Oh a smiley of sorts - I luv you too. WD had previously said to 'any comments? about R17 TMJ driving like a knob BMW driver (my take on facts) this stunning reply:- Learn to drive properly? terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com said like it made any sense Passed my test foirst time, and am a member of the IAM. WD replied in barely concealed mirth Idiot Amateur Maniacs label is something to aspire to... WD added in jest (honest RayK) IAM are usually selfish sons of bitches who try to steal others safety zone - all in the name of progress though. WD What's the difference between terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com and a chimneyless chicken . . . well one is a flueless clucker. PS If the Two Mills cam and the gatso up by the Woodhey Hotel are both magenta flashers, you could be walking from Deeside to Liverpool soon, the roads will be slightly safer. |
He's gone quiet.
Most unusual.
Maxwell has a beard
Because he's fucking wierd
He likes to stay in front
'Cos he's a stupid cunt
He has a private plate
Seen him? What a state!
Minging.
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