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Re: Oops? -
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I don't advocate jumping red lights at all, just suggest that it's perhaps not the best thing in the world to have cameras on lights with an unknown amount of leeway. Your average just passed driver is shit scared of getting points because of the 6 point limit for 2 years, and is liable to be pretty bad at controlling the car as they slide towards the junction. |
problem of braking distances going through the roof (probably along with any
insurance premiums depending on the situation and outcome).
HAND
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is " gotten" English ? Yes. |
Using it as the past tense of 'got' is a nasty US habit.
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It's on here ........ www.cheshire.police.uk/traffic_cameras.shtml and it is this one: A550 Welsh Rd Two Mills 60mph RED LIGHT Now, based on this ... http://www.leconcepts.com/radar/Web%...news/news7.htm i.e. :- "The state of the traffic signals is monitored and the loops are energised when the red light is illuminated. If a vehicle crosses the stop line 0.9 sec after this sequence, the camera is triggered, taking two photographs. One is taken immediately and one a second later to show the passage of the vehicle through the signals. The date and time of the offence, together with the time which elapses after the red light is illuminated, are recorded onto the film." Looks like I am OK, as definitely well within 0.9 seconds when I crossed the line, more like 0.001 seconds!! Any comments on this? |
Three things.
1. The A550 is well known for big expensive crashes, As is the A41. The A41
/ A550 junction has a camera for a reason. Have a look at the junction next
time you speed through it. It's covered in broken glass, bits of reg plate,
bits of motorcyclists, and other accident paraphernalia.
2. It's Cheshire, so arguing in court is bloody expensive. I argued a
speeding ticket over the Runcorn bridge, and it cost me 5 points and £160.
3. It's a traffic light camera. Anyone who sets one off deserves the points
and the fine. Unless you *have* to go through, i.e. to let Emergency
services through, you deserve the points. No matter how late the flash is.
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Was driving towards Liverpool at 8pm tonight, 60 mph limit road and doing just under that, say 55 mph. I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? It was dark at 8pm obviously and a scamera flash would have been obvious in my rear view mirrors. Any comments on this? That'd be the "scamera" put there to catch the plethora of cunts like |
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:20:49 -0000, "Doki" <doki (AT) SPAMMENOTspidar (DOT) com wrote: Tony Sutton <Tony (AT) hypertony (DOT) co.ukNOSPAM> wrote in message news:bqdu0k$jvm$1 (AT) ngspool-d02 (DOT) news.aol.com... "Terry Maxwell FIA" <terry.maxwell (AT) royal-liver (DOT) com> wrote in message news:fGuyb.15962$tL2.135012375 (AT) news-text (DOT) cableinet.net... Looks like I am OK, as definitely well within 0.9 seconds when I crossed the line, more like 0.001 seconds!! Any comments on this? You'll never know... the police could be greedy and wants money! Hang on tight and wait for the post... if you didn't get anything, then you got away. I reckon as it didn't seem to flash he'll have gotten away with it. You notice Gatso flashes in the daytime, you'd need to be pretty blind to miss them at night. IMO the time allowed for going through red lights (IYSWIM) really ought to be published, could save the odd person from skidding into a junction as the lights change rather than going through on amber. Erm, as far as I am aware there is very little defence for crossing on red. I don't recall going through any red lights and have never had to brake *dangerously* to avoid doing so - pretty harshly, occasionally but even then I was probably approaching the juction a little quickly. If the road was wet shouldn't the driver have been approaching the junction slower, in anticipation of the lights changing? The highway code spells it out pretty clearly - amber is not "green, but hurry up as I'm going to change soon!" http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs01.shtml Gareth |
whether we should slow up for them and nobody I've spoken to really
knows either. On my first driving test I went over a red and since I
passed I've been worried about red lights. I think I'm pretty good at
lights now but I only need to hesitate for about half a second to miss
the amber. I usually stop on amber quite early, I love it when the
person behind is going mad and telling their passenger that I could've
made it lol. Some drivers just don't have a clue about the highway
code!
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That'd be the "scamera" put there to catch the plethora of c*nts like you that run red lights and nearly get T-Boned on a daily basis? |
Like me, you mistakenly believe the Highway Code when it says an amber light
means 'stop'.
In fact, as many drivers know (particularly here in London) amber means
'accelerate hard' and red only means 'stop' after it has been on for 3 or 4
seconds - until then you're allowed to go right through it.
I'm no big fan of speed cameras but I'd have a traffic light camera on every
junction.
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I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? |
there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash,
would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it.
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I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? The sensors are not triggered the instant the lights turn to red, there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash, would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it. There were no speed camera markings on the road Because it's not a speed camera... |
white line. I imagine this is so that people who've just stopped over the
line, been shunted by someone behind etc. can dispute the ticket.
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Terry Maxwell FIA made the world a better place for us by saying.. It's on here ........ www.cheshire.police.uk/traffic_cameras.shtml and it is this one: A550 Welsh Rd Two Mills 60mph RED LIGHT Now, based on this ... http://www.leconcepts.com/radar/Web%...news/news7.htm i.e. :- "The state of the traffic signals is monitored and the loops are energised when the red light is illuminated. If a vehicle crosses the stop line 0.9 sec after this sequence, the camera is triggered, taking two photographs. One is taken immediately and one a second later to show the passage of the vehicle through the signals. The date and time of the offence, together with the time which elapses after the red light is illuminated, are recorded onto the film." Looks like I am OK, as definitely well within 0.9 seconds when I crossed the line, more like 0.001 seconds!! Any comments on this? Yup, yer fucked. Three things. 1. The A550 is well known for big expensive crashes, As is the A41. The A41 / A550 junction has a camera for a reason. Have a look at the junction next time you speed through it. It's covered in broken glass, bits of reg plate, bits of motorcyclists, and other accident paraphernalia. 2. It's Cheshire, so arguing in court is bloody expensive. I argued a speeding ticket over the Runcorn bridge, and it cost me 5 points and £160. 3. It's a traffic light camera. Anyone who sets one off deserves the points and the fine. Unless you *have* to go through, i.e. to let Emergency services through, you deserve the points. No matter how late the flash is. |
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I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? The sensors are not triggered the instant the lights turn to red, there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash, would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it. |
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