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Re: Oops? -
12-01-2003
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Pete M <pete.murray (AT) NO (DOT) SPAM.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: Terry Maxwell FIA made the world a better place for us by saying.. It's on here ........ www.cheshire.police.uk/traffic_cameras.shtml and it is this one: A550 Welsh Rd Two Mills 60mph RED LIGHT Now, based on this ... http://www.leconcepts.com/radar/Web%...news/news7.htm i.e. :- "The state of the traffic signals is monitored and the loops are energised when the red light is illuminated. If a vehicle crosses the stop line 0.9 sec after this sequence, the camera is triggered, taking two photographs. One is taken immediately and one a second later to show the passage of the vehicle through the signals. The date and time of the offence, together with the time which elapses after the red light is illuminated, are recorded onto the film." Looks like I am OK, as definitely well within 0.9 seconds when I crossed the line, more like 0.001 seconds!! Any comments on this? Yup, yer fucked. Three things. 1. The A550 is well known for big expensive crashes, As is the A41. The A41 / A550 junction has a camera for a reason. Have a look at the junction next time you speed through it. It's covered in broken glass, bits of reg plate, bits of motorcyclists, and other accident paraphernalia. 2. It's Cheshire, so arguing in court is bloody expensive. I argued a speeding ticket over the Runcorn bridge, and it cost me 5 points and £160. 3. It's a traffic light camera. Anyone who sets one off deserves the points and the fine. Unless you *have* to go through, i.e. to let Emergency services through, you deserve the points. No matter how late the flash is. There was no flash though. |
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Lordy <spam (AT) recycle (DOT) bin> wrote: I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? The sensors are not triggered the instant the lights turn to red, there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash, would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it. Unhelpful opinion. Stopping would have been dangerous. |
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Terry Maxwell FIA wrote: Lordy <spam (AT) recycle (DOT) bin> wrote: I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? The sensors are not triggered the instant the lights turn to red, there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash, would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it. Unhelpful opinion. Stopping would have been dangerous. The 'helpful' argument (that I was taught when I learned to drive) is that as you approach lights from a distance, and they stay green for a lengthy period, expect them to change in the immediate future and adjust speed appropriately. That way, it wouldn't be dangerous to stop when you see the amber. |
all I had. Pathetic for a main road.
Still, no flash so probably OK.
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I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? The sensors are not triggered the instant the lights turn to red, there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash, would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it. Unhelpful opinion. Stopping would have been dangerous. |
dangerous because your driving was dangerous.
I answered your question and it's the answer you wanted to hear. If you
don't want people to have an opinion of your driving then it's probably
best not to jump on a public forum and tell them you drive through
junctions without due care.
Nearly all 60 limit roads around here have 30 limits at the area
surrounding the traffic lights btw. Can I assume that this road you
speak of is not such a place... ?
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It's not a Gatso IIRC but a SerCo Serco is the company that maintains (some) Gatso cameras. Serco is not a make of camera. You may have seen the logo on the camera and been misled into thinking that was the name of the camera type. |
Sorry about that.
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Unhelpful opinion. Stopping would have been dangerous. |
poor conditions. If it was unsafe to stop you were either going too fast
or missed the lights changing to amber.
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I go through the lights just as they were going red - couldn't stop safely on the amber in the very wet conditions without going into a dangerous skid. Didn't see the expected G*TSO flash behind me, so can I assume that the scamera never went off? The sensors are not triggered the instant the lights turn to red, there's a little delay. That, and the fact that there was no flash, would rather unfortunately indicate that you got away with it. Unhelpful opinion. Stopping would have been dangerous. From the details provided in your post, stopping would only have been dangerous because your driving was dangerous. I answered your question and it's the answer you wanted to hear. If you don't want people to have an opinion of your driving then it's probably best not to jump on a public forum and tell them you drive through junctions without due care. Nearly all 60 limit roads around here have 30 limits at the area surrounding the traffic lights btw. Can I assume that this road you speak of is not such a place... ? |
Traffic lights on an NSL stretch.
If you time it _just_ right, you can slow down 60 feet or so from the
lights, down to walking pace, trigger the inductive loops, and then drive
through as the lights go green.
Pete.
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In article <SdKyb.16600$pK1.139158731 (AT) news-text (DOT) cableinet.net>, Terry Maxwell FIA <terry.maxwell (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Unhelpful opinion. Stopping would have been dangerous. The amber period is set to allow you to stop from legal speeds even in poor conditions. If it was unsafe to stop you were either going too fast or missed the lights changing to amber. |
not soaking wet, in a 30 limit, doing 30.
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"Doki" <doki (AT) SPAMMENOTspidar (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1070377421.8604.0 (AT) damia (DOT) uk.clara.net... The amber period is set to allow you to stop from legal speeds even in poor conditions. If it was unsafe to stop you were either going too fast or missed the lights changing to amber. Pish. I've nearly locked a wheel stopping for some lights, it was wet, but not soaking wet, in a 30 limit, doing 30. If it's a 30 limit is 30 a safe speed? Most people here can get this one right - let's see if you can... |
very little traffic around and no pedestrians. Remember that 30 indicated is
around 27 or so actual mph. One would expect the traffic lights would be set
up with people approaching at 30 in mind.
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The amber period is set to allow you to stop from legal speeds even in poor conditions. If it was unsafe to stop you were either going too fast or missed the lights changing to amber. Pish. I've nearly locked a wheel stopping for some lights, it was wet, but not soaking wet, in a 30 limit, doing 30. |
right - let's see if you can...
cheers,
clive
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