Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop

"Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> wrote

GH wrote:
Perhaps part of the problem with uk cannabis coffee shops is the fact
they have always in or very near the center of the town .

Would a old transport cafe not be a more suitable location as they
would be out of sight and out of town - with the result the police
might adopt a less aggressive approach to them .

And then they can all drive home stoned.
What a wonderful idea.

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!

Kev

"GH" <invalid (AT) ganjahost (DOT) co.uk.INVALID> wrote

Perhaps part of the problem with uk cannabis coffee shops is the fact
they have always in or very near the center of the town .

Would a old transport cafe not be a more suitable location as they would
be out of sight and out of town - with the result the police might adopt
a less aggressive approach to them .

Cross posted to uk.rec.cars.misc in case somebodys knows of a ideal
location .

Whilst I don't really approve, at least the munchies problem would be solved
;-)

In article <d5i4g7$en9$1 (AT) newsg3 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>,
Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote:

And then they can all drive home stoned.
What a wonderful idea.

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

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I would far rather retain control of my faculties!

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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

In article <d5i4g7$en9$1 (AT) newsg3 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>,
Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote:
And then they can all drive home stoned.
What a wonderful idea.

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to get
drunk. Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable drink and/or
meal without any use of alcohol.
By contrast the whole point of taking cannabis is to get high. I don't think
I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis because they enjoy
the taste!

Kev

Uno Hoo! wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:4d67491e15dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk...

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to
get drunk. Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable
drink and/or meal without any use of alcohol.

Then the difference is merely cultural. How would it be if the country pub
sold reefers?

By contrast the whole point of taking cannabis is to get high. I
don't think I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis
because they enjoy the taste!

S'funny you know, but in all of the years I've been drink, with a wide
variety of people from all walks of life, I can't think of any occasion
where somebody who wasn't drinking alcohol, for what-ever reason, opted for
an alcohol free lager rather than a traditional soft-drink. To me that
suggests that those people didn't drink alcoholic drinks for the taste
either.

I would say that the main difference between alcohol and cannabis is that it
has been drummed into you that drug use is bad and, therefore, any argument
that comes from somebody who supports drug use must also be bad. Lets face
it - those of us who are regulars on uk.rec.cars.misc do know that you have
a long history of being unable to think for yourself.

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Apparently on date Sat, 7 May 2005 02:57:51 +0100, GH
<invalid (AT) ganjahost (DOT) co.uk.INVALID> said:

Perhaps part of the problem with uk cannabis coffee shops is the fact
they have always in or very near the center of the town .

Would a old transport cafe not be a more suitable location as they would
be out of sight and out of town - with the result the police might adopt
a less aggressive approach to them .

Cross posted to uk.rec.cars.misc in case somebodys knows of a ideal
location .

How about lunatic asylums? That way they don't even have to drive home.

In article <d5ic8k$igs$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>,
Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote:

And then they can all drive home stoned.
What a wonderful idea.

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to
get drunk.

But they drink alcohol because of the pleasurable side effects?

Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable
drink and/or meal without any use of alcohol. By contrast the whole
point of taking cannabis is to get high.

To get pleasurable side effects. You don't *have* to get totally off your
face.

I don't think I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis
because they enjoy the taste!

Most never drink alcohol free beer or wine either. Regardless of what
they say they enjoy the effect of alcohol, rather than the taste of beer
or wine. And alcohol is also a drug - and a dangerous one, but simply
legal.

However, there's no reason why sensible people couldn't visit a country
cannabis cafe and have a nominated driver who doesn't partake. Same as
sensible people do when visiting a nice country pub.

FWIW, if we started with a clean slate, alcohol would be on *exactly* the
same footing as other presently illegal drugs. The fact that it's legal is
purely down to history as opium, cocaine and cannabis aren't native to
this country.

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"AndrewR" <andrew (AT) rockface (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Uno Hoo! wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:4d67491e15dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk...

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to
get drunk. Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable
drink and/or meal without any use of alcohol.

Then the difference is merely cultural. How would it be if the country
pub sold reefers?

It wouldn't be alright at all because often the only means of getting to the
country pub is by car and if, while there, you take drugs to get high then
you would not be fit to drive home.

By contrast the whole point of taking cannabis is to get high. I
don't think I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis
because they enjoy the taste!

S'funny you know, but in all of the years I've been drink, with a wide
variety of people from all walks of life, I can't think of any occasion
where somebody who wasn't drinking alcohol, for what-ever reason, opted
for an alcohol free lager rather than a traditional soft-drink. To me
that suggests that those people didn't drink alcoholic drinks for the
taste either.

I'm not sure that I follow your there at all. What are you suggesting? That
people only drink beer or wine to get drunk? If so then I would say that
you are talking out of your backside.

I would say that the main difference between alcohol and cannabis is that
it has been drummed into you that drug use is bad and, therefore, any
argument that comes from somebody who supports drug use must also be bad.
Lets face it - those of us who are regulars on uk.rec.cars.misc do know
that you have a long history of being unable to think for yourself.

Who am I thinking for then?

Kev

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

In article <d5ic8k$igs$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>,
Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote:
And then they can all drive home stoned.
What a wonderful idea.

Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!

So rather like country pubs with car parks?

There is a distinct difference. Many people, like me, do not drink to
get drunk.

But they drink alcohol because of the pleasurable side effects?

So you and others appear to argue. I drink wine, beer and spirits in
moderation because I like the taste of it - not for any side effects at all.

Also, you can visit a country pub, and have an enjoyable
drink and/or meal without any use of alcohol. By contrast the whole
point of taking cannabis is to get high.

To get pleasurable side effects. You don't *have* to get totally off your
face.

I wouldn't know. I've always managed to get plenty of enjoyment out of life
without seeking intoxication.

I don't think I've ever heard the argument that people take cannabis
because they enjoy the taste!

Most never drink alcohol free beer or wine either.

Probably because it tastes foul. If I could find an alcohol-free wine or
beer that tasted anything like the proper stuff then I would drink it. I
drink for the taste not for any effect.

Regardless of what

they say they enjoy the effect of alcohol, rather than the taste of beer
or wine.

So you say - but I disagree.


And alcohol is also a drug - and a dangerous one, but simply

legal.

See above. Most people that I know drink alcohol for the taste - not for any
after-effect. That may be hard to understand for many people today who's
sole source of 'fun' appears to be getting legless and performing like
cretins.

However, there's no reason why sensible people couldn't visit a country
cannabis cafe and have a nominated driver who doesn't partake. Same as
sensible people do when visiting a nice country pub.

Can you equate cannabis taker with 'sensible'? Bearing in mind the
increasing amount of medical evidence outlining the serious physical effects
on the human brain?

FWIW, if we started with a clean slate, alcohol would be on *exactly* the
same footing as other presently illegal drugs. The fact that it's legal is
purely down to history as opium, cocaine and cannabis aren't native to
this country.

Possibly.

Kev