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Re: CAR MODIFYING SITE
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Re: CAR MODIFYING SITE -
07-13-2003
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Boyracers are really funny. I have lost count of how many of their cars drive about in daylight with front foglights switched on. What is the point. |
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Some of the cars sound like they have no exhaust and have to be revved really hard to move, |
possible. Most enthusiasts recommend changing only the back box for best
torque curve.
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Tractor wheels that prevent proper steering |
especially once the tread is scrubbed out on one side.
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Blue LED washer jets on all the time |
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Aluminium plates instead of nice car mats |
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Spoilers that look daft bolted on to the roof or boot Front spoilers that nearly touch the road |
RACING' are worth using.
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Driving with headlights on low and fog lights on full at night |
in the know use front driving lights instead to increase top speed.
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Lowered cars that can't be driven with people in the back# |
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Various holes in the bonnet or self adhesive air vents! |
Highly tuned cars naturally need additional cooling. Also, by diverting air
away from the outside of the car, these vents reduce drag.
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Square numberplates like those on a motorbike |
Airflow round a square numberplate is at least 40% more efficient than a
rectangular plate.
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Hello, Boyracers are really funny. I have lost count of how many of their cars drive about in daylight with front foglights switched on. What is the point. They sit at traffic lights with the windows down and a stereo thumping away to distortion. Think of Kevin & Perry for an idea of what the "clones" in the front look like with shell suits and baseball caps. Lots of them have plastic glued over the windscreen so it obscures the view, or blacked out windows so they have to be down to see out! Fortunately most of them grow out of this disturbing phase when they reach 20-ish. |
on the aformentioned site with this. We think the stereotypical "boy racers"
are twats and fully agree they look stupid, but just because we modify cars
that doesn't put us in the same category as them. Please don't stereotype!
Cars can be tastefully modified without the owners looking like dicks - its
just some people give the rest a bad name as in many things in life.
However, the non narrow-minded people see past the stereotype..
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Some of the cars sound like they have no exhaust and have to be revved really hard to move, I always laugh when a 1.1 Saxo, Clio or whatever with big plastic bits glued over it goes past. I thought a petrol lawnmower had escaped from a front garden once. Why do boy racers always have crap looking cars with really small engines? |
that goes when you've just passed your test. I speak for myself and my
friends, we would all love big powerful cars but unfortunaltly insurance
sees it that we can't at the moment.
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Why not a plain looking car with massive engine! Surely they must feel stupid knowing that everything else on the road is faster as standard. God knows why they try to race everyone, if the rest of us normal drivers wanted to we could leave most of them behind in 1st gear - but prefer to let them get well out of the way instead. |
I've never raced anyone and I certainly don't go around racing cars that I
know would leave me for dead. But then if u want speed get a bike!!
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Just look on some of the car cruising web sites and have a laugh. The best thing to do is leave a car as it is, if you want a faster one - buy one. |
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We'll have to make a list of things that will identify a boy racer car - Front fog lights that operate all the time |
drivers that are guilty of this but again I dont want to stereotype
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Loud stereo and overdriven gutless distorted bass speaker |
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Two clones in the front wearing shell suits and matching baseball caps |
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Tractor wheels that prevent proper steering |
on the back
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3inch+ exhaust that makes loads of noise Blue LED washer jets on all the time |
therefore I dont. The reason I modify is to stand out
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Aluminium plates instead of nice car mats Spoilers that look daft bolted on to the roof or boot Front spoilers that nearly touch the road Coloured headlights (tacky blue bulbs) Driving with headlights on low and fog lights on full at night Slogans on numberplates or incorrect spacing/font K&N stickers Badges from different cars that don't match Bad suspension making the car "bounce" over every bump |
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Lowered cars that can't be driven with people in the back Cars with different mirrors from other cars Various holes in the bonnet or self adhesive air vents! Locks removed Square numberplates like those on a motorbike |
I could go on all day about how stereotypical and generally wrong you are
but to be honest I dont have the time to waste..
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| Can't think of anything else, that is the usual standard for Merseyside - if it still has keys. Most get raced about at 35mph until the occupants get scared or can't find the ear plugs. |
years I hope
Until I can afford the car and insurance it'll have to be amodified Ka I'm sorry guys. Get your facts straight next time
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| "chris@ukaskew" <chris (AT) ukaskew (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:AWFMa.1391$8g5.10431575 (AT) news-text (DOT) cableinet.net... Organ wrote: I hate the Boy Racer stereotype.. while on the most part its true there are some people who are into modifying cars because its what they like doing and dont want to race with everything that pulls up next to them at the lights. The stereotype covers far more than just people who race, its the people with fibre glassed cars and "phat" exhausts that it probably most applies to, the fact that most of these couldn't even race away from a set of traffic lights is what makes it so funny. When I think of boy racers I think of kids hanging around in car parks in Nova's and other standard cars with a passable stereo and a set of cheap alloys, usually a few slappers in the back (although this doesn't always happen until they reach 19/20ish, but ofcourse the girls are still 15/16ish), in my local area the Currys/McDonalds car park is the location of choice, the council actually put barriers in to stop the kids going in after 11pm, now when really desperate they just scrape their stupidly low cars over a grass verge to get in, always very funny to see them doing it. The really sad thing about the "stereotype" is how amazingly accurate it is in nearly every town I've ever driven through at night, always the same cars, the same music, the same dress sense and (probably) the same women! Chris. -- www.ukaskew.com UK Askew - The View Askewniverse in the UK |
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"547" <cls119 (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:beq58l$7rt9f$1 (AT) ID-197712 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de... Some of the cars sound like they have no exhaust and have to be revved really hard to move, I always laugh when a 1.1 Saxo, Clio or whatever with big plastic bits glued over it goes past. I thought a petrol lawnmower had escaped from a front garden once. Why do boy racers always have crap looking cars with really small engines? Because of insurance, you try gettin insurance on a 2 litre car or anything that goes when you've just passed your test. I speak for myself and my friends, we would all love big powerful cars but unfortunaltly insurance sees it that we can't at the moment. |
they see how most young lads drive their shitbox Novas.
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| Tractor wheels that prevent proper steering Wider wheels improve cornering, look at the Dodge Viper - 12inch wide tyres on the back |
tyres. Problem with most sets of OZ alloys I see welded onto local
twatmobiles is that they don't fit the wheelarches. This means that
the wheels don't turn properly which means that (1) you're not fully
in control of the car, and (2) the handling is appaling. You can't fit
20" alloys onto a Corsa no matter how rad they look.
Ian
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"Organ" <organ (AT) organisers (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote "547" <cls119 (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:beq58l$7rt9f$1 (AT) ID-197712 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de... Some of the cars sound like they have no exhaust and have to be revved really hard to move, I always laugh when a 1.1 Saxo, Clio or whatever with big plastic bits glued over it goes past. I thought a petrol lawnmower had escaped from a front garden once. Why do boy racers always have crap looking cars with really small engines? Because of insurance, you try gettin insurance on a 2 litre car or anything that goes when you've just passed your test. I speak for myself and my friends, we would all love big powerful cars but unfortunaltly insurance sees it that we can't at the moment. The insuranc companies won't insure you on "big powerful cars" because they see how most young lads drive their shitbox Novas. |
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| Tractor wheels that prevent proper steering Wider wheels improve cornering, look at the Dodge Viper - 12inch wide tyres on the back Hmmmm. Dodge Viper has a very wide space at the back to fit 12" wide tyres. Problem with most sets of OZ alloys I see welded onto local twatmobiles is that they don't fit the wheelarches. This means that the wheels don't turn properly which means that (1) you're not fully in control of the car, and (2) the handling is appaling. You can't fit 20" alloys onto a Corsa no matter how rad they look. |
I didnt mean excessively wide. The Viper was an extreme example. Wider
wheels (ie 195 instead of 165) improve traction and handling.
Im not going to get into an arguement though
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Ian |
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"Organ" <organ (AT) organisers (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote "Ian Bailey" <ianbailey (AT) orange (DOT) net> wrote in message news:984a2ef1.0307170659.1ef22f1 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... Hmmmm. Dodge Viper has a very wide space at the back to fit 12" wide tyres. Problem with most sets of OZ alloys I see welded onto local twatmobiles is that they don't fit the wheelarches. This means that the wheels don't turn properly which means that (1) you're not fully in control of the car, and (2) the handling is appaling. You can't fit 20" alloys onto a Corsa no matter how rad they look. I didnt mean excessively wide. The Viper was an extreme example. Wider wheels (ie 195 instead of 165) improve traction and handling. Im not going to get into an arguement though Why not? You said that adding wider tyres added grip. I said that on every example of a boyracermobile with aftermarket alloys they don't fit the wheel arches and crap up the handling. Do they or don't they? |
course if you go over the top with the width its guna fuck up the handling.
But 30mm wider than standard both looks good, fits the arches and improves
handling.
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So you've seen EVERY boy racer? Maybe just on the ones youve noticed. Of course if you go over the top with the width its guna fuck up the handling. But 30mm wider than standard both looks good, fits the arches and improves handling. |
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"Organ" <organ (AT) organisers (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> writes: [25 lines snipped] So you've seen EVERY boy racer? Maybe just on the ones youve noticed. Of course if you go over the top with the width its guna fuck up the handling. But 30mm wider than standard both looks good, fits the arches and improves handling. Methinks you don't know what "handling" is. |
therefore the car slides around less. Thats a part of handling. Yes the
larger area makes turning the wheels harder but slightly wider wheels are a
good compromise.
What do you think handling is?
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On 18 Jul 2003 16:41:55 GMT, huge (AT) huge (DOT) org.uk (Huge) wrote: "Organ" <organ (AT) organisers (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> writes: What do you think handling is? The behaviour of the car during changes of direction. It has to do with roll centres, centres of gravity, spring rates & shock absorber rates. The only real involvement of tyre widths are that wider tyres tend to have lower sidewalls. I used to work with someone whose brother was an engineer at Ford. One story went: the early XR2s were a disaster because the wide low-profile tyres fitted were a complete mismatch for the suspension, which allowed enough camber on cornering to virtually lift the stiff tyre onto its edge, where a 70 or 75 profile would simply flex and cant over, maintaining a reasonable contact area and hence grip. |
change during cornering, assuming your car has cheapo suspension that
allows such a thing, then you're f*cked. The contact patch changes size,
grip drops and whe-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e.
I imagine low profile tyres on the rear of anything with swing axle
suspension (Beetles, for example) must be a hoot like that.
I can strongly recommend this;
<http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/185960644X/qid=1058553250/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_1/202-8865646-7114247>
"Competiton Car Suspension" by Allan Staniforth.
Rather dry, but excellent stuff.
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:52:13 UTC, ianbailey (AT) orange (DOT) net (Ian Bailey) wrote: : Why not? You said that adding wider tyres added grip. Bearing in mind that these things are farting slowly about on miserable wee engines anyway, why would they need more grip? Does it really take so much traction to drive a bored looking teenage girl up and down a small-town high street a few times? |
laden with young adults or teenagers, leaving apparently harmless roads on
mild bends, no other vehicles involved, one would have to conclude that a
little more traction would not go amiss.
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John
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