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Douglas Payne
 
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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-23-2005 , 04:53 PM






Gordon Hudson wrote:
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Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us about
10 times what the original fine was.
Aside from the ubiquitous "well she shouldn't have been caught speeding
then, should she?", here's a crazy idea: stop moaning and change your
insurance company. Or at least tell your current one that you've had a
better offer and see what they say[1].

Douglas

[1] Sometimes it helps if you have actually had a better offer, but I
honestly don't think its all that difficult.


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Gio
 
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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-23-2005 , 05:05 PM







"Gordon Hudson" <gordon (AT) usenet2 (DOT) hostroute.co.uk> wrote

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Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

Sorry to hear of the increase but it is something I often thought happened
even though when getting quotes my past insurers have said when asking about
previous convictions that the '1st speeding offence does not change policy
cost'.

Have you tried an online insurance quote to see if the pricing changes for a
car without a speeding fine and one with the fine disclosed ? Staying with
one insurance company does not always give a true cost of the fine. e.g.
Wife had our 17 year old daughter put on her insurance and renewal costs
went from £198 to £402 but another company with comparable cover cost £341.
Price was still higher but the original company could not match a comparable
quote.

Gio




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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-23-2005 , 06:17 PM



Sounds about right, I got caught doing 47 on a 40 bit of dual
carriageway. Sent the premium on my Type-R Civic from £960 upto
£1280 with direct line and they will still be asking about this for
the next five years. So the cost of the ticket will probably be a
grand overall. Also I get my nose rubbed in it every day since the
particular stretch of road is opposite my desk at work and I regularly
see people doing 70+ mph down it. Of course the cops would never think
of putting a fixed camera here - instead one of the little c*nts hides
his motorcycle behind a sign half a mile up the road and peers around
with his radar.


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Steve
 
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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 04:35 AM




"Gordon Hudson" <gordon (AT) usenet2 (DOT) hostroute.co.uk> wrote

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Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us
about 10 times what the original fine was.

Thats actually quite unusual, they dont generally charge for the first 3
points but they still require to be told. Was it an otherwise clean licence?

Steve




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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 05:51 AM



"Steve" <no.way@com> wrote

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"Gordon Hudson" <gordon (AT) usenet2 (DOT) hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
news:429234d9$0$38039$5a6aecb4 (AT) news (DOT) aaisp.net.uk...
Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us
about 10 times what the original fine was.

Thats actually quite unusual, they dont generally charge for the first 3
points but they still require to be told. Was it an otherwise clean
licence?

Steve

We don't know how fast she was going and how many points she got...


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Steve
 
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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 06:40 AM



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Thats actually quite unusual, they dont generally charge for the first 3
points but they still require to be told. Was it an otherwise clean
licence?

Steve


We don't know how fast she was going and how many points she got...

Thats why I said for the first 3 points and asking if it was an already
clean licence.

Having said that now the government are trying to make speeding as much of a
social unacceptable crime as drink driving maybe the insurance companies are
oblidging by making premiums reflect this over serveral years as a deterent.

Steve




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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 07:01 AM




"Gordon Hudson" <gordon (AT) usenet2 (DOT) hostroute.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us
about 10 times what the original fine was.


Was last year your first year with that insurance company? If so, then they
may have applied a new customer discount to the premium, and you'll have
lost that benefit this year.

Without ringing the insurance company and querying the increase in premium
you can't deduce that the increase is down to the effect of these points -
I've been told by insurance companies that they only normally penalise
people at 6 points plus.

Time to start shopping around methinks - it really doesn't pay to be a
contented customer and stay with the same company. In fact, I can't think
of an occasion when my insurance price has actually reduced at renewal time
without any intervention from me, and that's with a completely clean license
& full NCB.


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Andy Turner
 
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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 07:52 AM



On Mon, 23 May 2005 20:53:59 +0100, "Gordon Hudson"
<gordon (AT) usenet2 (DOT) hostroute.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us about
10 times what the original fine was.
I wonder if the insurance companies are legally forced to increase the
insurance costs for speeding points? I reckon that if one of them said
"we ignore speeding points", they'd get customers by the bucketload.
Would they then get a lot of idiotic drivers? I doubt it, since we all
know how easy it can be to get a ticket these days. And in any case,
if the fear of losing your licence due to points totting up is
supposed to be a deterrent, then drivers with more points might be
those who are less likely to be in an accident anyway. I'd imagine
someone with 9 speeding points drives *very* carefully these days...!



andyt



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James
 
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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 08:26 AM




"Andy Turner" <andyt (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

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On Mon, 23 May 2005 20:53:59 +0100, "Gordon Hudson"
gordon (AT) usenet2 (DOT) hostroute.co.uk> wrote:

Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us
about
10 times what the original fine was.

I wonder if the insurance companies are legally forced to increase the
insurance costs for speeding points? I reckon that if one of them said
"we ignore speeding points", they'd get customers by the bucketload.
Would they then get a lot of idiotic drivers? I doubt it, since we all
know how easy it can be to get a ticket these days. And in any case,
if the fear of losing your licence due to points totting up is
supposed to be a deterrent, then drivers with more points might be
those who are less likely to be in an accident anyway. I'd imagine
someone with 9 speeding points drives *very* carefully these days...!

carefully, or do you mean rear-ends someone cuz they are peering at the
dashboard for 70% of the time?




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Default Re: Effect of one speed camer aticket on our car insurance - 05-24-2005 , 08:40 AM



Quote:
Wife was caught doing over 30 in a 30mph limit.
Told the insurance company.
Got renewal letter.

Last year we paid £220 with one year's NCB
This year we are paying £298 with two years NCB

I think these points last for 5 or 6 years so in total its costing us
about 10 times what the original fine was.

4 years

and change insurer, the company I'm with don't charge extra even if
you've been banned for speeding, as long as it's for a single speeding
offence
my son, who drives on my insurance, has 3 points for jumping a red
light, that wasn't taken into account either and they were the cheapest
by far for insuring a 17 year old

LJ




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