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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:16 AM






Eiron wrote:


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Remember when the Jaguar designers foiled the British Leyland
management by making the XJ engine compartment too narrow to
fit a Rover V8?
Did they? Having seen the Jag V12 and V8, and the Rover V8 up close, the
Rover seems smaller.

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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:18 AM






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You have the attention span of a goldfish. Try reading more than
the first sentence of a post and don't quote out of context. For
anyone else, the point was that an X-Type is a Mondeo.

It platform shares with the mondeo - problem is they made it to small and it
doesn't drive as nice or ride as nice as the mondeo. It's more than a
rebadge (rear biased 4x4 on the bigger models, bespoke interiors etc).

It could have been a lot better - Mondeo is a good car can't understand how
the X type ended up being so disappointing.




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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:32 AM



In article <3a2pc0F671n3qU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>,
Stimpy <stimpy1997uk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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Remember that most MG's were rebadged BLMC -> BL saloons.
It stands for Morris Garages. And the first ones were slightly tuned
Morris cars. Later - re-bodied using Morris mechanicals.

And the biggest sellers in BL days were probably the B and Midget. And
there was no such thing as a BLMC or BL saloon.

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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:35 AM



Stimpy (stimpy1997uk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
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The X-type is mechanically a Mondeo in the same was that the DB7 was
an XJS

XK8, but...

The DB7 was also based on the oily bits of the XJS
Which bits? And why on earth would they do that, when the XJS was an
ancient dinosaur at it's (much too late) death in '96, three years before
the DB7 launch (which followed the XK8 launch)?

I'm not saying it's utterly impossible, just completely unlikely...


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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:36 AM



Tim S Kemp (news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

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It could have been a lot better - Mondeo is a good car can't
understand how the X type ended up being so disappointing.
Because the Mundane is a good car for a Ford but the X is a poor car for a
Jag?


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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:39 AM



In article <s_OdnYcjO_3TqaHfRVn-gQ (AT) karoo (DOT) co.uk>,
Tim S Kemp <news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Remember when the Jaguar designers foiled the British Leyland
management by making the XJ engine compartment too narrow to
fit a Rover V8?

Did they? Having seen the Jag V12 and V8, and the Rover V8 up close, the
Rover seems smaller.
For the first few years the XJ40 wasn't available with the V12 - the old
but beautiful Series III was kept in production as a V12 only.

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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:41 AM



Adrian wrote:
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Tim S Kemp (news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

It could have been a lot better - Mondeo is a good car can't
understand how the X type ended up being so disappointing.

Because the Mundane is a good car for a Ford but the X is a poor car
for a Jag?
For examples of well done platform sharing you need to try the Saab 9-3, or
the new Volvo S40. Both completely different experiences from the Vectra /
Focus they respectively share with.

The S type is very Jaguar to drive and ride in, the X type just isn't.

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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:50 AM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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In article <3a2pc0F671n3qU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>,
Stimpy <stimpy1997uk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Remember that most MG's were rebadged BLMC -> BL saloons.

It stands for Morris Garages. And the first ones were slightly tuned
Morris cars. Later - re-bodied using Morris mechanicals.
Exactly. Most MG models were badge-engineered or reworked saloons rather
than unique designs. The saloons on which they were based ran the gamut of
the Morris -> BLMC -> BL ranges


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there was no such thing as a BLMC or BL saloon.
Of course there were; they used a whole variety of brand names. Remember
that during the early 70's there was a brief attempt to remove the marque
brands. Several TV and print media ad campaigns used the brands 'Leyland
Cars' followed (very briefly) by 'BL Cars'




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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:56 AM




"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Eiron (e1ron (AT) hotmail (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

But Jag hasn't released a FWD diesel.

Umm, yes, they have. The X-type diseasel is FWD, not 4wd - that's only the
v6 2.5 and 3.0
Why do people still find it amusing to say "diseasel"?




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Default Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? - 03-19-2005 , 09:57 AM




"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Stimpy (stimpy1997uk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

The X-type is mechanically a Mondeo in the same was that the DB7 was
an XJS

XK8, but...

The DB7 was also based on the oily bits of the XJS

Which bits? And why on earth would they do that, when the XJS was an
ancient dinosaur at it's (much too late) death in '96, three years before
the DB7 launch (which followed the XK8 launch)?

I'm not saying it's utterly impossible, just completely unlikely...
But true all the same.




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