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Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream?
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Re: Is it jawa, a jag, or Mondeo man's wet dream? -
03-19-2005
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"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Xns961E825B08087adrianachapmanfreeis (AT) 130 (DOT) 133.1.4... Eiron (e1ron (AT) hotmail (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : But Jag hasn't released a FWD diesel. Umm, yes, they have. The X-type diseasel is FWD, not 4wd - that's only the v6 2.5 and 3.0 Why do people still find it amusing to say "diseasel"? |
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DougP (dugx (AT) btinternet (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : The DB7 was also based on the oily bits of the XJS Which bits? And why on earth would they do that, when the XJS was an ancient dinosaur at it's (much too late) death in '96, three years before the DB7 launch (which followed the XK8 launch)? I'm not saying it's utterly impossible, just completely unlikely... But true all the same. As I said - which bits, and why? At the DB7's launch, the XJS was nearly a quarter of a century old and had been in the grave for three years. WHY would they do that? |
XJS, which they did because AML never had any money.
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I think what Dave meant was that there was no BLMC/BL saloon version of the B or Midget. Ah, ok... Point taken. Although remember that the AH Sprite was a direct steal from the A30 (?) and, of course, the subsequent Spridgets followed that lineage so, one *could* argue that the Midgets are the sports car version of the A30 :-) |
one important difference - r&p steering.
But the real point out of all this was that Jaguar in its heyday didn't do
really any major component or bodywork sharing with other 'lesser' makes.
Same as BMW and Merc today, if you want.
Ford buy Jaguar presumably for the 'prestige' name and just slightly
re-work a lesser model to try and sell at a premium price. And have proved
it fooled few by the poor sales.
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I once drove a V12 Series III down the autobahn, oh how it pissed off BMW drivers, especially when I drove into Germany from Basel. There was the usual queue at the Customs post, and the usual sprint away from the customs post after the passport check. Someone in a BMW 525 tried to out-accelerate the V12, probably thinking it was a 4.2. |
then the 2.5 would be still going long after the 5.3 had stopped for fuel
- several times. ;-)
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There's nothing wrong with the DB7 despite component sharing with the Mondeo and the XJS/XK8 nor yet with the DB9, nor with several of the Mazdas so Ford has shown that it *can* do platform sharing with success. |
room whatsoever, and a shocking reliability record.
I love Jaguars and Astons, and I think that the DB7 is a great looking
car. But what a family member went through in 18 months of DB7
ownership opened my eyes.
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Ben Blaney <m7 (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote: Nothing wrong except amazingly nasty cheap switchgear, absolutely no room whatsoever, and a shocking reliability record. For an Aston, these are traditions, not flaws. |
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Dave Plowman (News) <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote: In article <1gtquhi.10gcupj1c08rswN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote: I once drove a V12 Series III down the autobahn, oh how it pissed off BMW drivers, especially when I drove into Germany from Basel. There was the usual queue at the Customs post, and the usual sprint away from the customs post after the passport check. Someone in a BMW 525 tried to out-accelerate the V12, probably thinking it was a 4.2. |
Oh yes - been there (not Germany though), done that *quite* a few times!!
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Well, yes. Not many would expect a 2.5 litre to out accelerate a 5.3. But then the 2.5 would be still going long after the 5.3 had stopped for fuel - several times. ;-) Given the different fuel tank sizes ITYM the 525 will still be running long after the Jaguar owner's wallet has run out. |
You have to forgive Mr Plowman's thinking - it stems from his Aberdonian
(??) background I suspect....
Yes, they can swallow very *swiftly* but, IIRC, my V12 'HE' (was it a
'Sovereign' or summat? - I'm damned if can remember and the photos are in
the loft) had 2 tanks and could/would eat 50 quids worth of the finest (4
star leaded, IIRC also...) and still not be filled to the brim - 10 years
ago!!
(Anyway, when you've got a big ole lardy-arsed BM in your sights the *last*
thing you worry about is sodding 'fuel economy' believe you me!!! :-)
Tip: 'Cats' make good pets (*very* good) but don't get one if you can't
afford to feed it!! ;-)
(Recent 'modern' Jags? Who knows? Who cares?)
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Well, yes. Not many would expect a 2.5 litre to out accelerate a 5.3. But then the 2.5 would be still going long after the 5.3 had stopped for fuel - several times. ;-) Given the different fuel tank sizes ITYM the 525 will still be running long after the Jaguar owner's wallet has run out. |
London, so about 550 miles.
If it were a Series III V-12, the same size tanks as the 6 cylinders, ie
20 gallons total?
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Well, yes. Not many would expect a 2.5 litre to out accelerate a 5.3. But then the 2.5 would be still going long after the 5.3 had stopped for fuel - several times. ;-) Given the different fuel tank sizes ITYM the 525 will still be running long after the Jaguar owner's wallet has run out. |
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You have to forgive Mr Plowman's thinking - it stems from his Aberdonian (??) background I suspect.... |
and it was by far the thirstiest car I ever owned. Oh - and one of the
slowest accelerating at normal speeds. It could and was out-accelerated by
an Ital...
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Yes, they can swallow very *swiftly* but, IIRC, my V12 'HE' (was it a 'Sovereign' or summat? - I'm damned if can remember and the photos are in the loft) had 2 tanks and could/would eat 50 quids worth of the finest (4 star leaded, IIRC also...) and still not be filled to the brim - 10 years ago!! |
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(Anyway, when you've got a big ole lardy-arsed BM in your sights the *last* thing you worry about is sodding 'fuel economy' believe you me!!! :-) |
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Tip: 'Cats' make good pets (*very* good) but don't get one if you can't afford to feed it!! ;-) |
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(Recent 'modern' Jags? Who knows? Who cares?) |
at the post. A couple of years later, it would have been different. But
the 5 has been so good I've not been tempted to change yet, and have had
it much longer than I usually keep my main car for.
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Yes, they can swallow very *swiftly* but, IIRC, my V12 'HE' (was it a 'Sovereign' or summat? - I'm damned if can remember and the photos are in the loft) had 2 tanks and could/would eat 50 quids worth of the finest (4 star leaded, IIRC also...) and still not be filled to the brim - 10 years ago!! (Anyway, when you've got a big ole lardy-arsed BM in your sights the *last* thing you worry about is sodding 'fuel economy' believe you me!!! :-) |
You are Mike Hawthorne AICMFP.
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