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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 10:39 AM







"GH" <invalid (AT) ganjahost (DOT) co.uk.INVALID> wrote

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uk.rec.drugs.cannabis , Uno Hoo! , kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com
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Sat, 7 May 2005 16:23:52 +0100

Can you equate cannabis taker with 'sensible'?


Compared to who ? .

With a none cannabis taker?


Can you be a bit more specific .
If you wish. Using cannabis is against the law. By using it you risk
prosecution. That is not a sensible thing to do. Ergo there is no such thing
as a sensible cannabis user.

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 10:45 AM






Uno Hoo! wrote:
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"AndrewR" <andrew (AT) rockface (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Basically your arguement boils down to; "Alcohol should be legal
because lots of people like it, but cannabis shouldn't be legal
because I don't like it and I don't like the idea of people taking a
drug purely for its narcotic effect".

That's a pretty poor argument, really.

Well, it's an argument that holds sway in most countries in the world
isn't it?
Does that make it a better argument or a more rational basis for law?

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 10:50 AM



Uno Hoo! wrote:

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If you wish. Using cannabis is against the law. By using it you risk
prosecution. That is not a sensible thing to do. Ergo there is no
such thing as a sensible cannabis user.
Cars are sometimes involved in fatal crashes. By travelling in a car you
risk being involved in a fatal crash. That is not sensible risk. Ergo
there is no such thing as a sensible car user.

Sunlight causes skin cancer. By exposing yourself to sunshine you risk skin
cancer. That is not a sensible thing to do. Ergo there is no such thing as
a sensible t-shirt wearer.

Everybody who lives eventually dies. By living you take the risk that you
will die. Dying is a bad thing. Ergo there is no such thing as a sensible
person.

Do you spot the flaw in Mr Argument?

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 10:51 AM



AndrewR wrote:
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Uno Hoo! wrote:

If you wish. Using cannabis is against the law. By using it you risk
prosecution. That is not a sensible thing to do. Ergo there is no
such thing as a sensible cannabis user.

Cars are sometimes involved in fatal crashes. By travelling in a car
you risk being involved in a fatal crash. That is not sensible risk.
Ergo there is no such thing as a sensible car user.

Sunlight causes skin cancer. By exposing yourself to sunshine you
risk skin cancer. That is not a sensible thing to do. Ergo there is
no such thing as a sensible t-shirt wearer.

Everybody who lives eventually dies. By living you take the risk
that you will die. Dying is a bad thing. Ergo there is no such
thing as a sensible person.

Do you spot the flaw in Mr Argument?
Usenet is full of tossers and pedants, by using usenet you risk
dissillusionment in mankind's ability to make reasoned debate. Ergo there is
no such thing as a sensible argument in usenet.


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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 10:59 AM



Uno Hoo! wrote:
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"AndrewR" <andrew (AT) rockface (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Uno Hoo! wrote:

Well, actually, that is exactly what I thought. In fact I thought it
must be very special indeed as only adults were legally allowed to
drink it. !

You could at least get the law right; anybody aged 5 or over is
allowed to drink alcohol.

Pedantics.
ITYM "Pedantry".

As far as I know "pedantics" isn't a real word, what with "pedantic" being
an adjective and all.

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 11:36 AM



In article <427c9e7f$0$38041$5a6aecb4 (AT) news (DOT) aaisp.net.uk>, Gordon Hudson
says...
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"Uno Hoo!" <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Yes indeed - could only have come from the ravaged brain of a druggie!

Why do people think that taking drugs is a good thing to do?

I would far rather retain control of my faculties!

I occassionally smoked cannabis a couple of years ago to alleviate the
incredible pain I was enduring. It gave me a few hours of relief. The
one thing it didn't do was to make me feel high. In fact, apart from
the pain relief, it appeared to have no effect.

However I still didn't think it was a good idea to drive though and
I've not used it since.


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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 11:48 AM



Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote on Sat, 7 May 2005 14:30:06 +0100:
Quote:
"AndrewR" <andrew (AT) rockface (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Then the difference is merely cultural. How would it be if the country
pub sold reefers?

It wouldn't be alright at all because often the only means of getting to the
country pub is by car and if, while there, you take drugs to get high then
you would not be fit to drive home.
Er. You do realise that such pubs (without the reefers) already exist
and sell alcohol? Again: the difference is merely cultural.

You beleive cannabis is "bad", thus come up with illogical arguments
against it. Alcohol, OTOH, is normal and socially acceptable.

Quote:
I would say that the main difference between alcohol and cannabis is that
it has been drummed into you that drug use is bad and, therefore, any
argument that comes from somebody who supports drug use must also be bad.
Lets face it - those of us who are regulars on uk.rec.cars.misc do know
that you have a long history of being unable to think for yourself.

Who am I thinking for then?
Rather: who is thinking for you?

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 11:55 AM



Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote on Sat, 7 May 2005 16:23:21 +0100:
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"GH" <invalid (AT) ganjahost (DOT) co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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You mention the word "high" quite a few times - would you care to give
your definition of what high is ? .

I use the word 'high' because it is a term that is generally used to denote
the form of intoxication derived from drug use rather than alcohol use (yes
I know that will argue that alcohol is a drug as well). I have never taken a
controlled drug in my life and so have no personal idea of how to describe
the effect (and yes, I realise you will state now state that I am poorly
placed to criticise something that I have not tried - but I don't need to
practise paedophilia to know that it is wrong).
Why do you beleive that all illegal drugs get you "high" when legal
drugs (i.e. alcohol) get you "drunk"? There is likely to be as much
difference between one illegal drug and another, as there is between
alcohol and an illegal drug.

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 11:56 AM



Uno Hoo! <kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com> wrote on Sat, 7 May 2005 16:18:59 +0100:
Quote:
"AndrewR" <andrew (AT) rockface (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3e41fgF1481iU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net...

Basically your arguement boils down to; "Alcohol should be legal because
lots of people like it, but cannabis shouldn't be legal because I don't
like it and I don't like the idea of people taking a drug purely for its
narcotic effect".

That's a pretty poor argument, really.

Well, it's an argument that holds sway in most countries in the world isn't
it?
Which makes it valid?

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Default Re: Old transport cafe as a cannabis coffee shop - 05-07-2005 , 12:40 PM



On Sat, 07 May 2005 14:57:18 GMT and in uk.rec.cars.misc, GH wrote....

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uk.rec.drugs.cannabis , Uno Hoo! , kev (AT) dropthisbigfoot (DOT) com
d5ifss$obe$1 (AT) news8 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk
Sat, 7 May 2005 14:30:06 +0100

Then the difference is merely cultural. How would it be if the
country pub sold reefers?

It wouldn't be alright at all because often the only means of getting
to the country pub is by car and if, while there, you take drugs to
get high then you would not be fit to drive home.


Do you think there would ten foot high sign saying summit like ....
you are not allowed to leave here until you are completely whacked out
your skull :-)
What you doing here??

The problem you have is that you would have to regulate the different
ways of smoking cannabis. People would have to know the 'limits' and they
would have to know how much to use.

Most people know more than a pint will put them over the limit, how would
people know how much cannabis would put them over a limit??

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