Re: Rover

#11

In article <3f266c3a (AT) news (DOT) comindico.com.au>,
Garry Beattie <gjbeattie (AT) dodo (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Quote:

My 83 Rover 3500SE had Lucas Fuel Injection. I have located an 84 Vanden
Plas I am interested in but it has a Bosch fuel injection system. The
owner says that after a certain year Rovers changed from Lucas to Bosch
and created a much better fuel injection system for the car.

Can anyone confirm this??

I'm not sure about export models, but only Lucas EFI was used in the UK.
Besides, there's not really any difference - apart from the ECU. All the
sensors, injectors, AFM, pump, etc etc are Bosch components. Unless they
used a later closed loop system - but I doubt it. Are they fitted with
cats?

FWIW, the Lucas system works just fine (for its age) - the only slight
design flaw was a tendency to run weak at cruise which can be cured by
increasing the fuel pressure *slightly*.

--
*I used up all my sick days so I called in dead

Dave Plowman dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn

#12

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:07:32 GMT, "Garry Beattie"
<gjbeattie (AT) dodo (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Quote:

Thanks Paul.

From the information I have received so far, I think I will give the 827 a
miss.

From all accounts it sounds like it was basically a cheap, crappy car
dressed up with tacky cheap trim to try and make it look better than it was.

I think I will stick with the 3500 SE or Vanden Plas.

Or if you were keen on a more recent Rover, you could consider a
600..........ok theres alot of Honda in it, but, say a 623 GSI is a
very nice luxury car, with a nice Rover feel.....certianly much more
distinctive looking than the Accord on which its based.

.......as a bonus, it does'nt suffer from the fragile engine, and
transmission problems that the 800's did.

#13

Garry Beattie wrote:

Quote:

Thanks Paul.

From the information I have received so far, I think I will give the 827 a
miss.

From all accounts it sounds like it was basically a cheap, crappy car
dressed up with tacky cheap trim to try and make it look better than it was.

It was based on the Honda Legend and share many mechanical parts with it. The
biggest criticism of the 827 are certain plastic interior components that are
quite flimsy and fragile.

Quote:

I think I will stick with the 3500 SE or Vanden Plas.

#14

Tim S Kemp wrote:

Quote:

It was based on the Honda Legend and share many mechanical parts with it.
The
biggest criticism of the 827 are certain plastic interior components that
are
quite flimsy and fragile.

no, the biggest criticism was the naff handling,

It handled like a Honda Legend. According to a scrapyard owner who deals in
Hondas and Rovers and has owned several Legends and 800s, the Legend was not
up to the usual standards you get from Honda and not really of the executive
car quality you expect from say BMW or Audi. In other words Honda got it wrong
to start with and Rover got the problems dumped on them. Perhaps if the Legend
was more popular then the British would realise that Honda had made the real
mistakes and that Rover was having to live with them.

Rover might have been better off facelifting the SD1. You could have had rear
wheel drive as well.

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no it was the fragile 2.0l

That was trying to fit a Rover engine into a Honda bodyshell that was not
intended to take it.

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engines, no it was the jerky autoboxes,

Could be better could be worse.

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no it was the amazing rustability,

Most of the rusted out ones are now scrapped.

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no it was the dodgy electrics.....

Has anybody actually determined why the 800s suffer from niggling electrical
faults yet ?

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Absolute bargain now, late ones were reliable and many well loaded ones.

They had the Rover Engines with the balancing shafts rather than the original
Honda Engine.

#15

Quote:

If you're a Rover fan save up and wait for a 75

It's a BMW.

In what way, it's not based on any BMW parts (altho some people seem to
believe it's a chopped down 5 series for some strange reason).

Quote:

If you're a Rover fan, the last one was the SD1.
Some would say the P6.

Some would say the 600 (but in a rather hushed voice, heh).

--
Lordy

#16

Lordy waffled on in a quite bewildering manner to produce...

Quote:

If you're a Rover fan save up and wait for a 75

It's a BMW.

In what way, it's not based on any BMW parts (altho some people seem
to believe it's a chopped down 5 series for some strange reason).

If you're a Rover fan, the last one was the SD1.
Some would say the P6.

Some would say the 600 (but in a rather hushed voice, heh).

The Honda 600? <vbg>

Pete M

#17

Tim S Kemp wrote:

Quote:

Absolute bargain now, late ones were reliable and many well loaded ones.

They had the Rover Engines with the balancing shafts rather than the
original
Honda Engine.

ahhhh yes, the early KV6, self destructing engine. They never had a Honda 4
pot IIRC.

They had a Montego Engine with a DOHC cylinder head.

#18

Quote:

If you're a Rover fan, the last one was the SD1.
Some would say the P6.

Some would say the 600 (but in a rather hushed voice, heh).

Surely it's a Honda? By Rover, I meant one that didn't share
most of its parts with another car - or certainly one who
wasn't part of the group.

Very hard to find a car that doesn't nowadays tho, I guess Rover were
just ahead of their time

--
Lordy

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