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Should all new cars have electronic speed limiters?
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Re: Should all new cars have electronic speed limiters? -
05-07-2007
, 03:08 PM
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Clue: A recovery driver isn't a lorry driver. |
Huw
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Chris Whelan <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wrote: There's no ABS, no traction control, no fly by wire throttle, there's not much at all you could attach it to, there's nothing at all I can think of that couldn't be bypassed. It's unlikely there would be a requirement to retrofit to anything not having full ECU control surely? After all, there can't be many cars left in that category. Other than both the cars I own...... |
a large proportion of the number of cars on the roads in the EU ;-)
Chris
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In news:MPG.20a98ed641a6d88698a731 (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk, Conor <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith; In article <f1nk2t$tof$1 (AT) registered (DOT) motzarella.org>, Pete M says... How does that make them lazy? What do you think will happen when cars get limiters? The limiters will be removed. No one is going to fit a limiter to my cars. end of story. A cry heard from every haulage company yet here we are... I know a chap who makes a huge amount of money 'decommisioning' limiters from Scanias. So there are obviously people out there who don't want their trucks limited either. Mainly Irish, as it happens. |
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SteveH wrote: Chris Whelan <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wrote: There's no ABS, no traction control, no fly by wire throttle, there's not much at all you could attach it to, there's nothing at all I can think of that couldn't be bypassed. It's unlikely there would be a requirement to retrofit to anything not having full ECU control surely? After all, there can't be many cars left in that category. Other than both the cars I own...... Of course your fleet, though possibly extravagant to some, doesn't represent a large proportion of the number of cars on the roads in the EU ;-) |
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10 of my cars fall into the no ECU / very basic ECU category. |
Hell, one of them doesn't even have a starter solenoid - just a bit of
bowden cable tied to a lever sticking out the motor at one end with a nice
choke-cable style knob on the other end.
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On Mon, 7 May 2007 15:48:54 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: alexterrell <alexterrell (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: On 6 May, 23:58, %ste... (AT) malloc (DOT) co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: alexterrell<alexterr... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: 1. Be electronically limited to travel at no more than 140 / 150km/hr 2. Be fitted with a GPS based speed limited limiting its speed to 15km/ hr above the prevailing speed limit. Almost everyone's first reaction to this idea is strongly negative. But is seems most of the arguments against are emotional. What are the rationale arguments against? Why should my car be limited to 150km/hr when I can legally drive at 240km/h? Where is there a 240km/hr speed limit? There isn't, that's why I can drive at 240km/h legally. If the system was GPS based, then surely it'd let you drive at 240km/h if appropriate? |
km/h did you not understand?
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In news:ivI%h.6718$8E.2490 (AT) newsfe5-win (DOT) ntli.net, Chris Whelan <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith; Pete M wrote: The limiters will be removed. No one is going to fit a limiter to my cars. end of story. I think you need to consider how speed limiting would be implemented, in the unlikely event that it ever was of course. There would be no physical device that could be removed; it would be a software implementation. Dealing with this yourself would obviously not be easy... So how would you fit software to something as simple as a Mk2 Golf GTi. Ok, there's a management system but not a particularly intelligent one and it'd be easy to replace with a megasquirt system. There's no ABS, no traction control, no fly by wire throttle, there's not much at all you could attach it to, there's nothing at all I can think of that couldn't be bypassed. |
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Could any driver be trusted to use it so it's use didn't show up, just for a short speed boost, to overtake in a decent time and distance so they didn't create rolling roadblocks and then switch it off? Could a driver being overtaken be trusted not the flick it on when being overtaken and hold the overtaking lorry in the middle/outside lane indefinitely. For every good one there's any number of assholes. |
would be a bit of a giveaway.
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Depresion (127.0.0.1) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : 10 of my cars fall into the no ECU / very basic ECU category. Most of my fleet can't even spell ECU. Hell, one of them doesn't even have a starter solenoid - just a bit of bowden cable tied to a lever sticking out the motor at one end with a nice choke-cable style knob on the other end. |
Chris
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