Toyota Rav 4? - 05-07-2009 , 03:16 AM
any Rav-4 afficionados out there?
The missus has got it into her head that she'd like one.
She's currently driving a '99 Corolla, which is absolutely fine, except
the bonnet has blown (so looks unsightly), but also it's a manual, and
she had serious spinal surgery 6 months ago and is still in a lot of
pain, but also suffers from a lack of feeling in her left leg, and hence
wants to change the car anyway for an automatic of some sort.
Budget's not great - around £3k, and for that the best spec for a Rav-4
appears to be at least 8 years old with 90-100k on the clock.
So I guess I'm asking if anyone has experience of Rav-4s of that age and
usage and whether they're still viable and are likely to be
trouble-free, or whether there's anything in particular to look out for.
Any help greatly appreciated!
Re: Toyota Rav 4? - 05-07-2009 , 07:45 AM
"Marlon" <no.spam (AT) please (DOT) we.re.british> wrote
Good: Fine car-like drive. 5-doors are more practical, 3-doors more fun.
Reliable and reasonably economical. Excellent autobox.
Bad: Suitable for gentle off-roading only, should that bother you. Rear seat
in the 5-door isn't comfortable.
The first fashion 4x4 that really was car-like to drive. Strong performance
from 2.0 litre twin-cam 126 bhp Celica engine. Manuals have a centre diff
lock; autos don't. Autobox is typically excellent Toyota with good ratios
and is fully controllable (does 60 in second). 5-door versions are more
practical and handle better, 3-doors are faster and more fun. Nice low rear
load height for dogs, etc. Reasonably economical (30 mpg). Typical Toyota
In June 2001 Toyota was rated by Motor Warranty Direct as Britain's 3rd most
claim-free used marque. BMW, Toyota and Ford jointly suffered the fewest
breakdowns attended by German ADAC during 2001. Top for reliability in Auto
Express 2002 survey. Toyota had fourth lowest average cost in warranty
claims for cars up to 10 years old in 2002 Warranty Direct index. Joint 2nd
top make in 2002 'Which?' reliability survey cars 2000 - 2002; 3rd for cars
1997 - 1999. Toyota generally 10th lowest average warranty repair costs in
2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 74.95 v/s lowest 31.93) Link:-
www.reliabilityindex.co.uk 1995-1997 had fewest brteakdowns, problems and
faults; 1998-2000 had fewestr problems, average breakdowns and faults, rated
'Worth Considfering' in 2003 Which survey.
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Not great in an 'elk avoidance test'.
Rear seat of 5-door slopes forwards and is situated over rear wheels, so not
Suspension wishbones hang too low for serious off-roading.
Timing belt drives waterpump, so if waterpump fails the belt is thrown off,
but fortuantely the 3S-FE engine is non-interference so valves don't hit
What to Watch Out For
Bent suspension wishbones.
Uneven tyre wear.
Don't buy one with silly, over-large wheels and ridiculous running boards.
Some were independent imports. But now they're all old cars, buy on
condition rather than source.
Toyota RAV 4 (2000 - 2006)
Good: More versatile, classier and even more car-like to drive than the
previous model. Much improved from 2004 onwards. Reliable.
Bad: Side-hinged tailgate doesn't open wide enough. If you plan to take off
into the wilds, get a Nissan X-Trail instead.
Freshly restyled swb 3-door and lwb 5-door. 3-dr 3,805mm (12' 6") long; 5-dr
4,200mm (13' 9") long. Both 1,735mm (5' 8") wide.
Choice of front-wheel-drive with 1.8 litre VVT-i engine and 123 bhp or
four-wheel-drive with 2.0 litre VVT-i and 148 bhp. Rear seats now slide,
fold, double fold or can be removed altogether.
Official 'combined' fuel consumption: 1.8 is 38 mpg; 2.0 is 32 mpg; 2.0 auto
is 30.36 mpg.
Typical Toyota reliability.
List prices reduced to from £13,495 (1.8 2WD short wheelbase) from October
2000 still with three year warranty.
D-4D common rail direct injected diesel engine option from September 2001 in
both three and five door bodies. Main benefits are an EU combined fuel
consumption figure of 39.8mpg and a CO2 output of 190g/km (£160pa VED; 23%
list price BIK tax base) for the three door. D-4D develops 114bhp (85kW) at
4,000rpm and offers constant torque of 184 lb ft (250Nm) across the power
band from 1,800rpm to 3,000rpm giving a top speed of 106mph and a useful
0-60 of 11.9 seconds. This broad torque band is also very useful for
off-roading, of course. D-4D RAV4s from £15,995 (NV Three-door) or £17,495
(NV Five-door), including a full three year or 60,000 mile mechanical
A lot of improvements for 2004 model year including re-naming of trim levels
from NV, NRG, GX and VX to XT2, XT3 and XT4 (NV dropped). A/c standard on
all. Suspension improvements for better ride and sharper handling. Side
airbags now standard.BMW, Toyota and Ford jointly suffered the fewest
breakdowns attended by German ADAC during 2001.
Top for reliability in Auto Express 2002 survey. Joint 2nd top make in 2002
'Which?' reliability survey cars 2000 - 2002. Top 4x4, 7th = overall in 2003
What Car? J.D. Power Customer Satisfaction Survey. 98% breakdown free in
2003 Which survey. Toyota generally 10th lowest average warranty repair
costs in 2003 Warranty Direct Reliability index (index 74.95 v/s lowest
31.93) Link:- www.reliabilityindex.co.uk Fewest breakdowns, problems and
faults and rated 'Worth Considering' in 2003 Which survey. 21st from top car
out of 137 in 2003 Top Gear survey. Came 16th = from top in 2005 JD
Power/What Car Survey of 23,000 cars reg Sep 2002 to Aug 2003 with
satisfaction score of 82.5%.
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Soundly beaten off road by the Nissan X-Trail, but that's not the point. The
RAV-4 handles better and is nicer to drive in the suburbs.
No automatic option for the D-4D.
EU rear lighting regulations forced Toyota to use a check strap that stops
the side-hinged rear door opening fully.
Metallic 'chik' noise on upshifts of manual petrol version seems to come
from accelerator cable knocking against engine parts. Can be solved by
adding some rubber bushes.
Prices up for 2004 models starting at £15,995 for 3-door XT2 2.0 VVT-i
rising £21,995 for 5-door XT4 D-4D.
Some complaints of 'clicking' from radios of 2002 models.
What to Watch Out For
Make sure you don't pay UK money for an import lacking things like Thatcham
I security system.
If the engine intermittantly cuts out and the fault cannot be diagnostically
traced it may be due to a faulty safety fuel cut-off solenoid switch.
On D-4D cutting out can also be caused by a build of of salts on a hot wire
in the airflow sensor.
Four separate exhaust sensors on petrol models can fail expensively.
Sunroofs can spring a leak neeeding new seals which is a £300 + job. Engine
warning light coming on and speedo not working are symptoms of water ingress
to the wiring harness under the passenger seat. If it has corroded
internally then requires expensive replacement (readers have been quoted
£1,700 total, £720 for the harness alone).
VVT-i engines can start to use up to a litre of oil every 600 miles after
Transmission problems may be due to faults developing with the dual mass
flywheel. Toyota comment on the issue of dual mass flywheel failure:
"The issue regarding Dual Mass Flywheels relates to RAV4 CLA20 and CLA21
models (early diesel vehicles) and was found to be that under hard use
(towing etc) the flywheel securing bolts were unable to provide sufficient
tightness. This was remedied by an improved flywheel and revised fastening
and tightening processes, which were introduced into RAV4 vehicle production
from August 2002. The improvements were made from VIN numbers,
With our commitment to customer satisfaction the warranty was extended for a
period outside of the normal 3 year or 60,000 mile warranty. Because a
production line fix was introduced from August 2002 claims would only be
accepted on vehicles manufactured prior to this date. This extended period
ran for 5 years or 100,000 miles (whichever comes first) and as such would
therefore have expired in August 2007. I have to confirm that no extra time
or mileage will be added to this warranty extension and all Toyota Centres
are aware of the above information."
Early D-4Ds can suffer a rattle on the gear stick when in fifth gear. Nut
comes loose on the end of the fifth gear. Toyota identified a problem with
the five speed boxes in December 2004, and modified them as a TSB, but
independently serviced RAV-4s will have missed this.
Alloy wheels become terminally porous around the valve apertures.
TSB EG 5010 May 2005: If MIL warning light remains on and Fault Codes PO420
or P0430 can be read off ECU via OBDII port then car needs an ECU software
upgrade and a new catalytic converter with a modified cat matrix coating.
Model Name : YARIS, TOYOTA RAV4, AVENSIS VERSO, PICNIC, PREVIA, TARAGO
Subject : Handling of DTC "P0420/P0430" Case by Models
This service bulletin is to inform you on how to handle "DTC P0420 / P0430"
cases for Yaris, Previa / Tarago, RAV4, Avensis Verso / Picnic.
DESCRIPTION OF PHENOMENON
.. Engine MIL ON.
.. Code P0420 or P0430 in the engine ECU.
.. No influence on driveability or engine performance.