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Re: Whee! White Van Man! -
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In article <3gdgjsFbsrcjU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, RichardK says... I'm tempted to get an HGV licence just to piss you off, you know. Mainly to prove that driving an HGV is not the key to driving godliness that you seem to treat it as half the time. Off you go then. It'll cost you £2k and you'll be as fucking hopeless as the guy I had to babysit on Thursday who could barely reverse in a straight line and had no hope of reversing round a 90 degree turn to line up with the pumping gear. |
trailers, smaller commercial vehicles, and private buses, I doubt I'll
be completely incompetent in an HGV. I'm sure I would need to get used
to it, but I can reverse a car and six wheel trailer in a straight line
without hassle.
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Oh and the fact that at every roundabout, I ended up half a mile up the road before he'd even got off the give way line and he dropped to a crawl when he fucked up the gearchange from 4th to 5th. He'd been driving 3 weeks since passing his test. |
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Put your money where your mouth is. I'll run fucking rings round you. |
the world" any less stupid, no matter how you phrase it.
I'm highly amused that you actually are insecure enough to feel
challenged, though. I really, really hope you don't drive with that
attitude, or are you the twat I was following on the A1(M) sat with 100
feet in front of his HGV, 100 feet past the one he'd just spent the past
7 minutes attempting to pass, and still not fucking moving over.
Richard
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In article <3gdjknFbcjmoU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Carl Gibbs says... The HGV rest rules are there becuase you drive all the time. Richard did it as a one off. Chill out FFS Which makes it even worse because I am accustomed to driving 9-10 hours a day. |
the fucking Scottish Borders, and I used to do 30,000 miles a year as a
bloody student just seeing friends and being social.
I've done six hours today, as it happens. And I frequently drive several
cars in a day, switching from automatic to manual, FWD to RWD,
indicators on left or right, and so forth.
Richard
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Retro computing - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/
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"Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1d0bd72f42ebc4d3989e03 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... In article <3gdjknFbcjmoU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Carl Gibbs says... The HGV rest rules are there becuase you drive all the time. Richard did it as a one off. Chill out FFS Which makes it even worse because I am accustomed to driving 9-10 hours a day. snip |
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It's pretty fucking simple. |
Or was that 'special'?
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"Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1d0bd72f42ebc4d3989e03 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... In article <3gdjknFbcjmoU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Carl Gibbs says... The HGV rest rules are there becuase you drive all the time. Richard did it as a one off. Chill out FFS Which makes it even worse because I am accustomed to driving 9-10 hours a day. Good for you, but I really dont see how that makes it worse. |
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I've done a few long stints before. If you start to feel the tiredness you pull over. If you don't you keep driving. It's pretty fucking simple. Except that alot of the time, people aren't aware that they are |
someone.
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Conor wrote: In article <3gdgjsFbsrcjU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, RichardK says... I'm tempted to get an HGV licence just to piss you off, you know. Mainly to prove that driving an HGV is not the key to driving godliness that you seem to treat it as half the time. Off you go then. It'll cost you £2k and you'll be as fucking hopeless as the guy I had to babysit on Thursday who could barely reverse in a straight line and had no hope of reversing round a 90 degree turn to line up with the pumping gear. That's highly unlikely. Given the amount of practise I've had with trailers, smaller commercial vehicles, and private buses, I doubt I'll be completely incompetent in an HGV. I'm sure I would need to get used to it, but I can reverse a car and six wheel trailer in a straight line without hassle. Straight line....whooptie friggin do. I think I have to reverse in a |
And a car and trailer is akin to a drawbar setup which, aside from the
need to turn the steering wheel the same way, reverses and corners
differently than an artic.
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Oh and the fact that at every roundabout, I ended up half a mile up the road before he'd even got off the give way line and he dropped to a crawl when he fucked up the gearchange from 4th to 5th. He'd been driving 3 weeks since passing his test. And of course, you were perfect a mere 3 weeks after passing. Not far off. Spent the first 6 months on artics shunting trailers round |
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Put your money where your mouth is. I'll run fucking rings round you. Conor, being an HGV driver doesn't make saying "I'm the best driver in the world" any less stupid, no matter how you phrase it. You said you could do it and piss me off. I'm challenging you. Quite |
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And you know how many hours I'm driving a day how, exactly? I live in the fucking Scottish Borders, and I used to do 30,000 miles a year as a bloody student just seeing friends and being social. Wow, a whole 30,000 miles? That's like 1.5-2 hours a day? |
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And I frequently drive several cars in a day, switching from automatic to manual, FWD to RWD, indicators on left or right, and so forth. Wow. Not bad. Puts me to shame. |
change, 3 speed range change and split, 4 speed range change and split,
double H, double H with split, Eaton twin split, EPS, Tiptronic and I-
Shift, each category having two or three different methods of control
and giving me a range of gearboxes with 6,8,10,12 or 16 gears. As well
as a vehicle which varies in length by 20 ft, trailers with different
reversing characteristics and loads with varying handling
characteristics to contend with.
Dead easy compared to what you have to deal with. I bow to your
superior abilities.
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"Be incomprehensible. If they can't understand, they can't disagree"
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Just like Conor. Or was that 'special'? Special. We live in a PC society now. |
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In article <3ge0qvFbku4vU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Carl Gibbs says... "Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1d0bd72f42ebc4d3989e03 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... In article <3gdjknFbcjmoU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Carl Gibbs says... The HGV rest rules are there becuase you drive all the time. Richard did it as a one off. Chill out FFS Which makes it even worse because I am accustomed to driving 9-10 hours a day. Good for you, but I really dont see how that makes it worse. Because you're not accustomed to it. |
hours, you're doing pretty much the same thing!
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I've done a few long stints before. If you start to feel the tiredness you pull over. If you don't you keep driving. It's pretty fucking simple. Except that alot of the time, people aren't aware that they are actually tired until they do a 5 minute blink and run off the road/into someone. Not aware you're tired? You are joking? You'd have to be pretty stupid to |
and that's when accidents happen!
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Not aware you're tired? You are joking? You'd have to be pretty stupid to not realise you're tired! Some people think they can stay awake when tired and that's when accidents happen! |
Conor seems to think that he knows me better than I do, and I'm
impressed given that he's never met me. Driving to Cambridge, sleeping
overnight, and driving back is fuck all for any driver and I have no
idea what the hell he's getting wound up about.
Given that I quite regularly will drive to Birmingham, do a trade show,
and come back in the same day, and know a lot of people that do similar
things... Still, I'll be looking into the HGV thing. Spending £2K (in a
series of lessons, so spread out, one assumes) to get another licence
and another skill seems pretty good.
Richard
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In article <3gee18Fc2cc6U2 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, RichardK says... And you know how many hours I'm driving a day how, exactly? I live in the fucking Scottish Borders, and I used to do 30,000 miles a year as a bloody student just seeing friends and being social. Wow, a whole 30,000 miles? That's like 1.5-2 hours a day? |
would drive across the Borders, to Glasgow, back down, pick up random
hitch-hikers and drive them to Newcastle for a laugh, then come home.
See, comparing what you - employed to drive for a living - and what I,
driving for recreation - do is stupid.
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Depending on where I'm sent I've only got 6 speed, 4 speed range change, 3 speed range change and split, 4 speed range change and split, double H, double H with split, Eaton twin split, EPS, Tiptronic and I- Shift, each category having two or three different methods of control and giving me a range of gearboxes with 6,8,10,12 or 16 gears. As well as a vehicle which varies in length by 20 ft, trailers with different reversing characteristics and loads with varying handling characteristics to contend with. Dead easy compared to what you have to deal with. I bow to your superior abilities. |
those people that has to learn their car. However, I'm reassured that
you consider what you are trained to do challenging and difficult.
Generally the stuff I'm trained to do, I practically manage on autopilot.
Richard
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Retro computing - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/
Cars - 2004 Beetle Cabrio, 1989 Supra 3.0i, 1990 Sera, 1989 Volvo 740
MidiGuitar, AU/X. Apple 77-04. See links. Email - upgrade to 128
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