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Default Who is in the right? - 07-23-2003 , 11:58 AM






SCENARIO.

Travelling in nearside lane catching a slow lorry. Want to pull out into
middle lane but it is continuously full of traffic which won't give way?
Do I:

a) Sit in the nearside lane for miles being obstructed until a clear space
emerges, if ever.

b) Check the Mirrors, indicate and pull out anyway on the basis that I am
the vehicle in front so "middle-lane hogs" should be alert to my manoeuvre?

Currently I am simply getting in the middle lane and staying there as the
only way to make progress which makes me guilty of Max's NUMPTYNESS. I
prefer to get back into the nearside lane but all those pig-ignorant
middle-lane hogs won't let me back out if I do.

Polarpuppy.





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David Thornber
 
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Default Re: Who is in the right? - 07-25-2003 , 02:57 AM






In message <tdYTa.667$XI2.453925 (AT) newsfep1-win (DOT) server.ntli.net>,
beaverpup <beaverpup (AT) tesco (DOT) net> writes
Quote:
SCENARIO.

Travelling in nearside lane catching a slow lorry. Want to pull out into
middle lane but it is continuously full of traffic which won't give way?
Do I:

a) Sit in the nearside lane for miles being obstructed until a clear space
emerges, if ever.

b) Check the Mirrors, indicate and pull out anyway on the basis that I am
the vehicle in front so "middle-lane hogs" should be alert to my manoeuvre?

Currently I am simply getting in the middle lane and staying there as the
only way to make progress which makes me guilty of Max's NUMPTYNESS. I
prefer to get back into the nearside lane but all those pig-ignorant
middle-lane hogs won't let me back out if I do.

Officially, you should probably stick to A. In the real world, you'll
have to resort to B every once in a while.

Your third option is probably the single most common reason for
completely unnecessary motorway bottlenecks. I see these all the time:
Cars bunching up in all three lanes to overtake a solitary centre lane
hogger. Please don't do it!

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David Thornber


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Default Re: Who is in the right? - 07-25-2003 , 04:49 AM



"beaverpup" <beaverpup (AT) tesco (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
SCENARIO.

Travelling in nearside lane catching a slow lorry. Want to pull out into
middle lane but it is continuously full of traffic which won't give way?
Do I:

a) Sit in the nearside lane for miles being obstructed until a clear space
emerges, if ever.

b) Check the Mirrors, indicate and pull out anyway on the basis that I am
the vehicle in front so "middle-lane hogs" should be alert to my manoeuvre?

Currently I am simply getting in the middle lane and staying there as the
only way to make progress which makes me guilty of Max's NUMPTYNESS. I
prefer to get back into the nearside lane but all those pig-ignorant
middle-lane hogs won't let me back out if I do.

People should really live enough space between themselves and the car in
front to allow another car to pull into it, which still can be quite a small
gap. If people are driving so close that nothing will fit inbetween then
they are twats and deserve to get someone 'politely' nudging into their
precious space if they have to do so. You always get the c**ts who see someone
who is quite correctly (i.e checked the space, matched the speed, indicated,
smiled) moving into the gap in front of them and take great umbrage to
this and floor it to block them out.

If you need to join the middle lane make sure you've matched your speed to
the traffic in that lane. Not only will that ensure you merge far more
easily and safely and get into a smaller gap, but it will also show the
driver you are aiming to move out in front of that you aren't going to hold
them up by being a slower vehicle, so they should feel more willing to
not block you out.

Of course you should never get yourself stuck two inches behind a lorry,
you'll never match the speed from that position, so its worth dropping
back then reaccelerating to make the transistion for yourself. Its all
about a bit of forward planning and timing really.


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Default Re: Who is in the right? - 07-25-2003 , 05:18 AM





Of course you should never get yourself stuck two inches behind a lorry,
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you'll never match the speed from that position, so its worth dropping
back then reaccelerating to make the transistion for yourself. Its all
about a bit of forward planning and timing really.
You can make better progress by joining those in the outer lane. In medium
to heavy traffic you'll be unlikely to exceed the speed limit. (Most
speedometers read 5 to 10% slow).
When the occasional BMW looking for penalty points nips at your tail pipe,
pull over and let him go. Then rejoin the progessives. You make steady
progess and less hazardous than nipping in and out of the inner lane.
DaveK.




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Martin Imber
 
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Default Re: Who is in the right? - 07-25-2003 , 06:14 AM



B all the time - just make sure there is a big enough gap to go into

I find I usually get flashed out.



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Default Re: Who is in the right? - 07-25-2003 , 09:36 AM



AKA Outside Lane Hogging?

Dan

"DaveK" <davek (AT) fsnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:

Of course you should never get yourself stuck two inches behind a lorry,
you'll never match the speed from that position, so its worth dropping
back then reaccelerating to make the transistion for yourself. Its all
about a bit of forward planning and timing really.

You can make better progress by joining those in the outer lane. In medium
to heavy traffic you'll be unlikely to exceed the speed limit. (Most
speedometers read 5 to 10% slow).
When the occasional BMW looking for penalty points nips at your tail pipe,
pull over and let him go. Then rejoin the progessives. You make steady
progess and less hazardous than nipping in and out of the inner lane.
DaveK.





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Default Re: Who is in the right? - 07-25-2003 , 01:54 PM



If I look ahead and see someone indicating to come out, I tend to slow down
and allow them out, providing that having looked in my mirrors and the
conditions made it safe, everything was OK. What I won't do is slam on the
brakes in an instant though to let someone out - thats too dangerous to
other road users. Probably 90% of other drivers are the same as myself..pity
about the other 10%. Like everything though there are exceptions. Who I
won't let out are:

1) Cars who I have watched jumping in from lane to lane at relatively high
speeds - they deserve no courtesy whatsoever and I believe a major player in
road accidents because they are unpredictable and the drivers impatient.

2) Queue jumpers, particularly in lane closed/reduced situations and which
are clearly marked, who haven't the courtesy to wait the same as the
majority.

The answer then I believe, is to indicate early and not to have aggrieved
many on your way there. Why take the chance of pulling out if your not
sure..its like a game of chicken.

Top_Bhoy


"beaverpup" <beaverpup (AT) tesco (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
SCENARIO.

Travelling in nearside lane catching a slow lorry. Want to pull out into
middle lane but it is continuously full of traffic which won't give way?
Do I:

a) Sit in the nearside lane for miles being obstructed until a clear space
emerges, if ever.

b) Check the Mirrors, indicate and pull out anyway on the basis that I am
the vehicle in front so "middle-lane hogs" should be alert to my
manoeuvre?

Currently I am simply getting in the middle lane and staying there as the
only way to make progress which makes me guilty of Max's NUMPTYNESS. I
prefer to get back into the nearside lane but all those pig-ignorant
middle-lane hogs won't let me back out if I do.

Polarpuppy.







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